Hiring wave vs. the degree requirement
05-31-2016 | 06:32 AM
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Meh, degrees may be a thing for suckers in the future. Out of high school, get ratings, instruct, go to a regional with flow through a few years after that. A lot of people will get on with the majors this way and will beat their degrees counterparts by a few years or more. Or the degrees person might never make it if the majors are clogged up by flowthroughs and military.
Maybe too late for you though as it sounds like you're at a non flow regional.
Maybe too late for you though as it sounds like you're at a non flow regional.
05-31-2016 | 06:35 AM
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05-31-2016 | 06:48 AM
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[QUOTE=Judge Smails;2137555]First you're in a expensive state. Second if you have no support from parents for school you will almost certainly qualify for financial aide. I made better then 10,000 a year while working in college 30 years ago. It can be done if you want it. The problem is that to many kids these days want to hit the frat parties every weekend and need extra free time to find themselves. There are plenty of ways to go to college in this country and not graduate with a large amount of debt. It might however require work.
05-31-2016 | 06:54 AM
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First you're in a expensive state. Second if you have no support from parents for school you will almost certainly qualify for financial aide. I made better then 10,000 a year while working in college 30 years ago. It can be done if you want it. The problem is that to many kids these days want to hit the frat parties every weekend and need extra free time to find themselves. There are plenty of ways to go to college in this country and not graduate with a large amount of debt. It might however require work.
Or this could be part of the problem...
Cost Of College Degree In U.S. Has Increased 1,120 Percent In 30 Years, Report Says
....and that article is from 2012.
First you're in a expensive state. Second if you have no support from parents for school you will almost certainly qualify for financial aide. I made better then 10,000 a year while working in college 30 years ago. It can be done if you want it. The problem is that to many kids these days want to hit the frat parties every weekend and need extra free time to find themselves. There are plenty of ways to go to college in this country and not graduate with a large amount of debt. It might however require work.
Cost Of College Degree In U.S. Has Increased 1,120 Percent In 30 Years, Report Says
....and that article is from 2012.
05-31-2016 | 06:57 AM
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05-31-2016 | 07:13 AM
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05-31-2016 | 07:19 AM
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Meh, degrees may be a thing for suckers in the future. Out of high school, get ratings, instruct, go to a regional with flow through a few years after that. A lot of people will get on with the majors this way and will beat their degrees counterparts by a few years or more. Or the degrees person might never make it if the majors are clogged up by flowthroughs and military.
Maybe too late for you though as it sounds like you're at a non flow regional.
Maybe too late for you though as it sounds like you're at a non flow regional.
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05-31-2016 | 07:25 AM
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Sounds like those who went to college 15 to 30 years ago don't have a current clue of how expensive college is today.
If you qualify for financial aid, it is because you are just getting by financially, and taking on any additional debt doesn't appeal to anyone in that situation.
If you don't qualify for financial aid, it is because you make descent money according to the financial aid qualification guidelines, so be prepared to fork out anywhere from $100 to $500 or more PER CREDIT hour!
A Bachelors Degree typically requires 120 credit hours , so do the math.
The argument that people pose when they ask if a degree is a necessity, isn't always about trying to avoid doing the work required to obtain it.
My experience in talking to a few people wondering if it is worth getting a degree, is that they are more concerned about the financial implications of pursuing a degree.
People have mortgages, special needs children, or take care of children already going to college. Obtaining a degree for many in this group means debt (or continued debt) is inevitable.
Is a degree important to be considered at a good legacy carrier? The proven and consistent answer is... YES!
Unfortunately, it seems like some believe that anyone asking about a degrees' worth are labeled as someone not wanting to do what is required to be competitive, but keep in mind, it may be more of a financial decision instead.
If you qualify for financial aid, it is because you are just getting by financially, and taking on any additional debt doesn't appeal to anyone in that situation.
If you don't qualify for financial aid, it is because you make descent money according to the financial aid qualification guidelines, so be prepared to fork out anywhere from $100 to $500 or more PER CREDIT hour!
A Bachelors Degree typically requires 120 credit hours , so do the math.
The argument that people pose when they ask if a degree is a necessity, isn't always about trying to avoid doing the work required to obtain it.
My experience in talking to a few people wondering if it is worth getting a degree, is that they are more concerned about the financial implications of pursuing a degree.
People have mortgages, special needs children, or take care of children already going to college. Obtaining a degree for many in this group means debt (or continued debt) is inevitable.
Is a degree important to be considered at a good legacy carrier? The proven and consistent answer is... YES!
Unfortunately, it seems like some believe that anyone asking about a degrees' worth are labeled as someone not wanting to do what is required to be competitive, but keep in mind, it may be more of a financial decision instead.
05-31-2016 | 07:31 AM
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Sounds like those who went to college 15 to 30 years ago don't have a current clue of how expensive college is today.
If you qualify for financial aid, it is because you are just getting by financially, and taking on any additional debt doesn't appeal to anyone in that situation.
If you don't qualify for financial aid, it is because you make descent money according to the financial aid qualification guidelines, so be prepared to fork out anywhere from $100 to $500 or more PER CREDIT hour!
A Bachelors Degree typically requires 120 credit hours , so do the math.
The argument that people pose when they ask if a degree is a necessity, is not because they are typically trying to avoid doing the work required to obtain it.
My experience in talking to a few guys wondering if it is worth getting a degree is that they are more concerned about the financial implications of pursuing a degree.
People have mortgages, special needs children, or take care of children already going to college. Obtaining a degree for many in this group means debt (or continued debt) is inevitable.
Is a degree important to be considered at a good legacy carrier? The proven and consistent answer is... YES!
Unfortunately, it seems like some believe that anyone asking about a degrees' worth are labeled as someone not wanting to do what is required to be competitive.
Keep in mind, it's more of a financial decision for some of them.
If you qualify for financial aid, it is because you are just getting by financially, and taking on any additional debt doesn't appeal to anyone in that situation.
If you don't qualify for financial aid, it is because you make descent money according to the financial aid qualification guidelines, so be prepared to fork out anywhere from $100 to $500 or more PER CREDIT hour!
A Bachelors Degree typically requires 120 credit hours , so do the math.
The argument that people pose when they ask if a degree is a necessity, is not because they are typically trying to avoid doing the work required to obtain it.
My experience in talking to a few guys wondering if it is worth getting a degree is that they are more concerned about the financial implications of pursuing a degree.
People have mortgages, special needs children, or take care of children already going to college. Obtaining a degree for many in this group means debt (or continued debt) is inevitable.
Is a degree important to be considered at a good legacy carrier? The proven and consistent answer is... YES!
Unfortunately, it seems like some believe that anyone asking about a degrees' worth are labeled as someone not wanting to do what is required to be competitive.
Keep in mind, it's more of a financial decision for some of them.
05-31-2016 | 07:52 AM
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The counter argument is you're making it sound like no one in the past didn't have to make the same tough decisions. And the OP said he thought he could do it for about a $25,000 "financial hole."
A guy told me about both he and his wife being unemployed, with two teenagers, and he figured out how to stay in school and finish his degree.
No one is pretending it's easy but if you want a job at a major you're kidding yourself if you recommend not getting a degree unless you go to a WO with a f/t agreement. What did the guy post about UA's numbers, five out of 1,850? Impossible? No. Ugly odds? Yes.
A guy told me about both he and his wife being unemployed, with two teenagers, and he figured out how to stay in school and finish his degree.
No one is pretending it's easy but if you want a job at a major you're kidding yourself if you recommend not getting a degree unless you go to a WO with a f/t agreement. What did the guy post about UA's numbers, five out of 1,850? Impossible? No. Ugly odds? Yes.
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