Deny NAI failed, given final approval by DOT
12-03-2016, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Please. No more hyperbole about scabs. There is no such thing as 'not technically a scab' or 'scab-adjacent.' One is either a scab or not. A strike would have to exist and a picket line would have to be crossed in order for someone to be labeled a scab. There are no strikes and no picket lines to cross.
12-03-2016, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by NEDude
There was no legal grounds to deny the certificate, which is why they finally granted it. They prolonged the approval as long as they could, until the EU finally exercised their right to independent arbitration as allowed for in the treaty. When the DOT realised they would lose, they relented.
12-03-2016, 10:04 AM
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If Norwegian strictly relied on European labor the U.S. and Euro legacies would still object vehemently because of the strategic threat it represents. Someone else mentioned that Lufthansa is using a low-cost subsidiary called Eurowings to fly some transatlantic A330s more cheaply than the normal Lufthansa flights and yet nobody on this side of the Atlantic is complaining about that...
Low cost is great for consumers and the U.S. legacies will have to adapt to compete. Fortunately for them, none of these Euro LCC carriers have the passenger hub feed that the U.S. legacies have...
Low cost is great for consumers and the U.S. legacies will have to adapt to compete. Fortunately for them, none of these Euro LCC carriers have the passenger hub feed that the U.S. legacies have...
12-03-2016, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by David Puddy
If Norwegian strictly relied on European labor the U.S. and Euro legacies would still object vehemently because of the strategic threat it represents. Someone else mentioned that Lufthansa is using a low-cost subsidiary called Eurowings to fly some transatlantic A330s more cheaply than the normal Lufthansa flights and yet nobody on this side of the Atlantic is complaining about that...
Low cost is great for consumers and the U.S. legacies will have to adapt to compete. Fortunately for them, none of these Euro LCC carriers have the passenger hub feed that the U.S. legacies have...
Low cost is great for consumers and the U.S. legacies will have to adapt to compete. Fortunately for them, none of these Euro LCC carriers have the passenger hub feed that the U.S. legacies have...
12-03-2016, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Not exactly. The existing agreements specifically forbid the shopping around the world to circumvent existing labor laws. Its more than a Norwegian airline "based" in Ireland. They are also on Asian contracts. The only reason for that is to circumvent US-EU open skies labor standards while taking advantage of the opportunities in the agreement. It is a 100% illegitimate operation full of scab wanna be's and hopefully they spool up, buy a lot of Boeings, and then the plug is pulled on them leaving them stranded. Scum of the earth.
The opportunities created by the agreement are not intended to undermine labour standards or the labour-related rights and principles contained in the Parties' respective laws. (Article 17 bis - Social Dimension)
It does not prohibit moving an AOC around within Europe as long as the operation complies with applicable EU labour laws.
Also the pilot contract is not Asian, it is through a company called Global Crew UK LTD which is based in Ipswich, UK and affords the pilots full protection of UK and EU labour laws.
12-03-2016, 12:24 PM
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What kind of domestic network does NAI expect to setup within the US to feed their cheap international flights? A lot of their business model relies on them flying into secondary airports meaning their passengers have to be within driving distance. The US airlines still benefit from a domestic network that isn't currently available to NAI.
12-03-2016, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
If you can't (actually or practically) strike ever again, then what else would you call the lowest scum of the lowest scum? These guys who go there are wanna be scabs, there just isn't an opportunity for them to scab ATM. They are the lowest of the low, and birds of a feather with everyone who has ever been on a scab list.
Lowest of the lowest is always a relative term. This widebody position in FLL is hardly the lowest paying widebody job offered at FLL/MIA for US pilots. Eg, 1-st year AmeriJet 767 starts at guarantee of 39,780.
12-03-2016, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Eaglepilot84
What kind of domestic network does NAI expect to setup within the US to feed their cheap international flights? A lot of their business model relies on them flying into secondary airports meaning their passengers have to be within driving distance. The US airlines still benefit from a domestic network that isn't currently available to NAI.
12-03-2016, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Name User
It's called capitalism....Norwegian offers a good, solid product, on new aircraft, for a good price. They are highly rated on customer review sites unlike AA, DAL, and UA. There is a reason people continue to purchase on them, and not us.
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