NWA Merger committee
03-12-2008, 05:26 AM
#71
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Originally Posted by slinky
What they keep telling us is that the 88's, while I will be the first to say are not my favorite, are VERY cheap to lease. They are basically so cheap that fuel cost can not cover the difference between them and a new aircraft. At 60,000 a month in lease cost, vice ten or more times that number for a new 100 seater, the 88's and NW -9's have a real place in the combined operation. I really think this is true.
I think that if we get together those NW -9's are going to used agressively to knock down some RJ flying and cut DCI costs.
I think that if we get together those NW -9's are going to used agressively to knock down some RJ flying and cut DCI costs.
03-12-2008, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by sully606
I agree. I heard that we could buy 3 MD-90s for the price of one 76 seat RJ. I think in a merged airline the route guys would like to keep more of the NW DC-9s around than currently planned.
03-12-2008, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by reddog25
Training cost is minimized by keeping DC-9s as well. DC-9-30,40,50,88,90 are all 1 type rating. Fly one, ya can fly the other. Think about the flexibility......
03-12-2008, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
Scoop,
How long do you think the MD-88's will be around?
How long do you think the MD-88's will be around?
Scoop
03-12-2008, 09:46 AM
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I've changed my opinion on this merger. Once I was against it but after reading much on the subject I believe this is in best interests for all parties long term.
Rumor, only rumor, take it for what it's worth, but I heard that we are close to coming to a deal. We will hear by Friday one way or another. And since I am on the rumor front, a potential proposal is that spliting the difference b/t DOH and relative seniority for the guys hired b/t 1995 and 2000. 2001 and on will go straight DOH. I am a 96 hire at NWA and that would put me towards the end of 97 hires at DAL. Just a rumor!
Rumor, only rumor, take it for what it's worth, but I heard that we are close to coming to a deal. We will hear by Friday one way or another. And since I am on the rumor front, a potential proposal is that spliting the difference b/t DOH and relative seniority for the guys hired b/t 1995 and 2000. 2001 and on will go straight DOH. I am a 96 hire at NWA and that would put me towards the end of 97 hires at DAL. Just a rumor!
03-12-2008, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by sully606
Same type rating but I don't think they would be a common catagory. Delta had them separate when we had the DC-9.
03-12-2008, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by slinky
What they keep telling us is that the 88's, while I will be the first to say are not my favorite, are VERY cheap to lease. They are basically so cheap that fuel cost can not cover the difference between them and a new aircraft. At 60,000 a month in lease cost, vice ten or more times that number for a new 100 seater, the 88's and NW -9's have a real place in the combined operation. I really think this is true.
I think that if we get together those NW -9's are going to used agressively to knock down some RJ flying and cut DCI costs.
I think that if we get together those NW -9's are going to used agressively to knock down some RJ flying and cut DCI costs.
Bingo!! We have a winner!!
03-12-2008, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Opus
I've changed my opinion on this merger. Once I was against it but after reading much on the subject I believe this is in best interests for all parties long term.
Rumor, only rumor, take it for what it's worth, but I heard that we are close to coming to a deal. We will hear by Friday one way or another. And since I am on the rumor front, a potential proposal is that spliting the difference b/t DOH and relative seniority for the guys hired b/t 1995 and 2000. 2001 and on will go straight DOH. I am a 96 hire at NWA and that would put me towards the end of 97 hires at DAL. Just a rumor!
Rumor, only rumor, take it for what it's worth, but I heard that we are close to coming to a deal. We will hear by Friday one way or another. And since I am on the rumor front, a potential proposal is that spliting the difference b/t DOH and relative seniority for the guys hired b/t 1995 and 2000. 2001 and on will go straight DOH. I am a 96 hire at NWA and that would put me towards the end of 97 hires at DAL. Just a rumor!
I find it interesting that both mamagment teams have started squealing about the cost of oil.
Prediction: To put pressure on us they will start to imply cutbacks and grounding aircraft as the ONLY solution without a merger. Ie. Merger or furloughs (or a halt in hiring)......
Thats how they work. They are very good gangsters. We are very good wimps.
03-12-2008, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ITSALLGOOD
NewKnow,
I agree that is a standard practice...problem is all the objective evidence (oil price, stock ratings, and possible recession) would support their dastardly claim.
I agree that is a standard practice...problem is all the objective evidence (oil price, stock ratings, and possible recession) would support their dastardly claim.
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