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Old 11-16-2008 | 04:57 PM
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Sorry, yeah I was typing fast. Yeah our plan B with a different set of categories. Had a fancy latin legal word that I take it translates to alternate.
Was it Arguendo?
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Old 11-16-2008 | 04:59 PM
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Was it Arguendo?
Looks right, but I'm the product of a public school education
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Old 11-16-2008 | 05:08 PM
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Why would DALPA need a backup plan.
DALPA had better have a backup plan. All indications are that the arbitrators have asked for one from both sides. This doesn't surprise me given the fact that they've dropped hints that neither proposal is going to fly. Once they've said that, it's quite common for the judges to offer both sides a last minute chance to come off their original proposal. The side who is stupid enough not to give the judges what they've asked for is in real danger of having no say in the final judgement at all.

Don't salivate NWA guys...I know DALPA is not that dumb. You can count on them having a plan B.

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Old 11-16-2008 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
Looks right, but I'm the product of a public school education
I think it's Latin for: "For the sake of the argument."

As in, the NWA guys were not conceding their deisre to implement DOH, but to keep moving along, if the arbitrators don't buy DOH, they will explain the dynamic concept. Great stuff.

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Old 11-16-2008 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
DALPA had better have a backup plan. All indications are that the arbitrators have asked for one from both sides. This doesn't surprise me given the fact that they've dropped hints that neither proposal is going to fly. Once they've said that, it's quite common for the judges to offer both sides a last minute chance to come off their original proposal. The side who is stupid enough not to give the judges what they've asked for is in real danger of having no say in the final judgement at all.

Don't salivate NWA guys...I know DALPA is not that dumb. You can count on them having a plan B.

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Yeah, I know they do. I just wonder what it is. Mainly because I found it odd that their side seemed totally at a loss and unprepared to cross-examine our side on the merits of the dynamic list. Which makes me think that they MUST have a plan B that is significantly different than their plan A.

I guess I have to wait until the transcripts come out tomorrow. Monday Night Football had better be good.
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Old 11-16-2008 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
I think it's Latin for: "For the sake of the argument."

As in, the NWA guys were not conceding their deisre to implement DOH, but to keep moving along, if the arbitrators don't buy DOH, they will explain the dynamic concept. Great stuff.

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Yeah, that was the context of the discussion between Greg and the arbritrator. I have liked our presentation from the start, but after reading yesterdays transcript I'm really upbeat.

As I said several times, one side or the other is going to take a look at where they think they are at the end of the presentations and cut the best deal they can. I would think maybe late this week or early next week. There has to be professional karma readers on retainer by both law firms reading the judges.

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Old 11-16-2008 | 06:03 PM
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Wow. I just realized that I could be watching this overtime game between the Eagles and Bengals. But instead, I am reading transcripts.

New K Now = Nerd.

I'll just chalk it up to me not wanting to watch because my real team got spanked today and I don't want to see the score in the ticker.


P.S. The game ended in a tie anyway. I did myself a favor.
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Old 11-16-2008 | 07:28 PM
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Two words... TENNESSEE TITANS!!
My second favorite team. But, I'm still jealous. They play REAL football. Like my team USED to play.
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Old 11-16-2008 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
DALPA had better have a backup plan. All indications are that the arbitrators have asked for one from both sides. This doesn't surprise me given the fact that they've dropped hints that neither proposal is going to fly. Once they've said that, it's quite common for the judges to offer both sides a last minute chance to come off their original proposal. The side who is stupid enough not to give the judges what they've asked for is in real danger of having no say in the final judgement at all.

Don't salivate NWA guys...I know DALPA is not that dumb. You can count on them having a plan B.
Heyas Carl,

Interesting thing about what you said...

The Deltoids have long accused the NWA side about it's overreaching proposal and how we're going down the same track that the USAir guys did.

Ironically, it was the USAir guys who would not move off their initial proposal or give any alternatives, which seems to be where the DAL guys are seized up. Like the USAir guys, they have now been warned by the arbitrators that it might be poor ground to make a stand.

One of our guys was told by a DAL LEC rep that the DAL side is committed to their proposal as it stands, and anything else would represent a political disaster for their MEC. You pays your dollar and you takes your choice.

Personally, I'm still betting on a negotiated solution.

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Old 11-17-2008 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
Heyas Carl,

Interesting thing about what you said...

The Deltoids have long accused the NWA side about it's overreaching proposal and how we're going down the same track that the USAir guys did.

Ironically, it was the USAir guys who would not move off their initial proposal or give any alternatives, which seems to be where the DAL guys are seized up. Like the USAir guys, they have now been warned by the arbitrators that it might be poor ground to make a stand.

One of our guys was told by a DAL LEC rep that the DAL side is committed to their proposal as it stands, and anything else would represent a political disaster for their MEC. You pays your dollar and you takes your choice.

Personally, I'm still betting on a negotiated solution.

Nu
That is pretty ironic...isn't it.

The DAL lawyers are smart cookies. Even if it is true that DALPA feels they can't move off of their proposal, a good lawyer will MAKE you get religion.

Carl
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