It was discussed during the mediated sessions with Chairman Bloch and formally presented on Saturday for the record. So yes, it will now be considered by the arbitration panel.

 

The latest transcripts are out. NWA has done a 180. Officially, their position is they still want date of hire but they aren't going to talk about it any more. They have now moved to a dynamic list proposal. Dynamic list has about as much credibility as date of hire. Its a political fig leaf.
Delta has won. At least as far as integration method. Even the NWA witness, Mr. Averill, has started arguing about what changes would have to be made to Delta's proposal to make it "more fair".
The only remaining issue is how to structure the status and category list.
Hopefully, the 2 teams and the arbs will arrive at a fair solution.

 

So, exactly how many chickens have you gotten up to in your count?

 

I don't see how you can disagree. NWA has dropped their entire DOH case and moved to a 15 year "dynamic" staus and category list.
The arbitrators won't go for "dynamic". That's nothing but a guaranteed 15 years of more arbitration. Two pilot groups fighting. Red/green. North/south. Roberts redux.

Status and category doesn't favor either group. The arbitrators will slot each pilot in a fair manner and we will move forward as one group.

I shouldn't have said "won". Poor choice of words. Delta has persuaded the panel that status and category offers a more versatile and robust methodology for combining two lists. Nobody "won".

 

Don't know about that. I'm only a few pages in so far, but the Dynamic list is described as "interesting" by Chairman Bloch and it was presented at his request. If we thought Chairman Bloch thought it was bogas (or a fig leaf) I doubt we would have wasted our time.

Back to reading...........I agree with NewK.........I'd hold off counting them chickens and put the bubbley back on ice for a few more weeks.

Not much longer to the 8th boys, quit shak'en them gift boxes!

 

Wow. I just realized that I could be watching this overtime game between the Eagles and Bengals. But instead, I am reading transcripts.

New K Now = Nerd.

I'll just chalk it up to me not wanting to watch because my real team got spanked today and I don't want to see the score in the ticker.


P.S. The game ended in a tie anyway. I did myself a favor.

 

Was reading and watching the CVG vs PHL games as well. Not sure which was more boring.

It does look like the two litigators are getting "punchy". I was waiting for the cat fight to break out - now that would be entertaining

It was interesting reading about the dynamic list but was more interested in the comparison of the A-330 to the 7ER.

 

I had the game on while I was reading the transcripts and nothing in the game kept my attention for more than a minuet.

I don't know if that means the transcript was that good or the game was that bad.

Ok. Yes I do. The game was bad.

 

Hey essential,

I wouldn't be so cocky just yet! Have you read the 2200 pages of testimony? Dal pilots whole premise for super seniority (seniority that date of hire would not hold) was that you were a superior group bringing much more to the table. Bloch stated that this was a merger of equals. He has also told both groups that they are not getting what they want. We have offered 32 proposals to Dal's one. The reason they are offering a dynamic list is to give the arbitrators more room to work with. Dal has been warned to move off of their position by the arbitraitors and they have not. Dal unwillingness to move off of their position has made them look bad and if you had any reprentives at the hearings you would have been notified of how nervous and uncomfortable your team looked.

I know we are viewed as the dumpster divers and according to you guys we are bring very little to the party, a strinking airline with an aging fleet and useless NRT hub. Yes, this was your brainthrust's exact arguement. However, that argument was refuted and even in the USA today this week had a big article on how Delta is now the number one carrier in Asia and all the planned expansion that will ensue.

So, no, I don't think you've won. In fact, your argument was laced with an air of supremacy and while you say we bring nothing to the party you are against fences and you have no problem enjoying are forthcoming attrition. But what do I know? I'm just a dumpsterdiver!

 

Because I want to see us succeed. People that say childish things like: "Delta has won" and "...it will never happen" are only setting themselves up for extreme disappointment if the SLI goes against what they predicted. It is this extreme disappointment due to certainty about an uncertain process that can cause people to want to burn the house down. I don't want to see that.

That's why I care.

Carl