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Old 12-30-2008, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Nosmo King View Post
JS is certified for TO and landing as long as the compartment door is latched open. The vertical back of the JS is physically attached to the underside of the bunk. So yes, it will lose us a usable jumpseat.
Sounds like the new 777LRs- rest compartment is certified for T/O and landing, not sure how many JSs are in it. The remaining 777ERs have compartments but not certified for t/o and ldg, nor are the 7 767ERs with rest compartments.

On the 747-400 and the A330 the BC seats are flat but not quite horizontal. I find them to be useless for sleep, but much better than a seat in steerage class.
Yes, having used a designated BC rest seat so long I can safely say it doesn't compare to getting horizontal, even if it's only for the 21/2 to 3hr. break going to Europe.(from ATL) As for "steerage"-- you won't have to worry about that anymore on dead heading--- any ocean crossing (incl. Hawaii and South America) requires a BC seat per the contract.

As I mentioned in another thread, mamagement would have to remove:

a. Rest seat
b. Jump seat
c. PED power console (120V power plug identical to the biz class seats)


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I don't know if we waived any requirements on the 767ERs with rest compartments, because we do a limited amount of >12hrs. With the addition of winglets, though, we might do more. (My whole interest is in trying to have the "best of both worlds", ie. having a horizontal rest facility on the nice 8-12hr. European flying....hmmm....) I would think it would be cheaper for the Co. to add an extra rack in the A330 vs. building more rest compartments for ERs. BTW, is the rest compartment a standard config. on both the A330-200 and -300?
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Old 12-30-2008, 10:19 AM
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I don't know if we waived any requirements on the 767ERs with rest compartments, because we do a limited amount of >12hrs. With the addition of winglets, though, we might do more. (My whole interest is in trying to have the "best of both worlds", ie. having a horizontal rest facility on the nice 8-12hr. European flying....hmmm....) I would think it would be cheaper for the Co. to add an extra rack in the A330 vs. building more rest compartments for ERs. BTW, is the rest compartment a standard config. on both the A330-200 and -300?
Yes the rest compartment is the same on the -200 and the -300.

The existing compartment on the A330 is very nice, it has a shaver outlet with a mirror, a 120V plug same as the BC seats, a reclining rest seat (not usable at the same time as the bunk). jumpseat, storage compartment for one rollaboard, temp control with eyeball vent and the bunk. It is easily the nicest rest compartment we have on any airplane at NW.

The main complaint is that you can hear most noises from the BC galley and the flight attendants like to slam their jumpseat and carts around. The FA JS at 1R is mounted on wall of the rest compartment.

The second complaint is you can hear the cockpit door slam shut if the other pilots/person exiting the flight deck are not considerate enough to shut it softly.

IMO the rest facility is much nicer than the ones we have on the 747-200 and 747-400.

Old rumor: NW is going to acquire 10 more A330s in the near future.

New Rumor: The ten A330s are already certified for higher gross weight. (Can put on enough fuel for >12hrs and have the fuel dump system installed)

Trivia: The current NW A330s are plumbed for fuel dump, but do not have the dump controls installed in the cockpit and do not have the dump nozzles installed on the trailing edge of the wing.

If NW is going to buy more A330s then they will probably do it quickly so they have time to configure them and retrain the crews for fuel dump.

SLC-NRT starts in June and rumor says LAX-NRT is June or July.
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