Originally Posted by deltajuliet

If Mesa went belly up, honestly, it would probably be better for the industry and the profession. Nobody is actively trying to shut it down, but if it went that way you wouldn't see many tears.


You have to have more confidence in yourself and your career than that. It's a pilot's market; 1-year FO's are getting on with Spirit. You made a post in February of '16 referring to working here. If you've been around that long, and you've been flying 26 years, I'm sure the Spirits and the Allegiants and the Frontiers would love to have you. Do you really think you'd have to start over at Envoy?

I don't believe it's been confirmed by anybody that United or American offered us more money to staff, and regardless it's not spitting in their faces to refuse continuing as the lowest paid 121 jet operator in the country. Have some self respect.

It's a big market, and I imagine just about every non-lifer Mesa pilot has their apps out anyway. Besides, if Mesa really got into trouble, we'd be a carrier in distress and get preferential interviews at other ALPA carriers. Alternatively, we get bought out by a place like SkyWest and go to their pay scales. I'd be fine with either scenario.

Originally Posted by CWHCFI

The union did a couple of polls. However, the wording in these polls made it impossible to actually determine what the pilot group wanted. Questions were written like the following example, "Which is more important, pay or insurance?"

These so called polls did not allow us to truly state what our pilot group needs. These were done in a manner that the union can now say, "We heard heard you and negotiated for what you wanted"

Originally Posted by calmwinds

SW never closed their IAH CRJ base. They will have no trouble picking up our Ejet flying there. SW is also making noise about making a play for our DFW CRJ flying. SW won't need to buy Mesa --- at this point, they just need to wait for AA or UA to drop us and pick up the flying.

Originally Posted by word302

Meh. Just talked to a guy that got 750 his first year. Facts ya know.

Originally Posted by Tpinks

Your comparing two different fleets though. SW's IAH Crj's are not competing against MESA's Crj's for IAH flying. The two bases can co exist as they have different purposes.

If Republic or SkyWest were to open an 170/175 IAH base with additional non-Mesa aircraft, it would cannibalize Mesa there.

Originally Posted by calmwinds

I know less about Republic - just their lengthy upgrade times as published. Bunch of friends at SkyWest. They are encouraging me to go there. Good bases. Good QOL. I plan to be at SWA before going there though - SWA is hiring 800 FO's this year.

SW is waiting for us to fail at IAH. If UAL gives them a chance, they will cannibalize us just like they are ExpressJet. They have 200 extra Ejet pilots (CA's and FO's) waiting to come to whatever SW's next growth base is. SW won't even have to buy us.