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No Land 3 10-03-2019 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by SureJetz (Post 2897980)
Oh, you've never heard of Canadian North flying those 737-200's up to BFE Canada? They've had a bunch of people fail out with thousands of hours on those CRJ's.... They can't hack those steam gauges and those archaic turbojet engines with no FADEC's...

This dude is probably some crusty old guy who hates RJ pilots..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_North

Really has nothing to do with being an RJ pilot. Older you get, the slower the learner you become. You can argue all you want, the proof is in the data. The FAA won't hire some one off the street to be an Air Traffic Controller if they won't finish their training by the age of 33? I am 39 and I don't pretend to hang with the 20 year olds. Getting old sucks.

kevin18 10-04-2019 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by No Land 3 (Post 2898011)
Really has nothing to do with being an RJ pilot. Older you get, the slower the learner you become. You can argue all you want, the proof is in the data. The FAA won't hire some one off the street to be an Air Traffic Controller if they won't finish their training by the age of 33? I am 39 and I don't pretend to hang with the 20 year olds. Getting old sucks.

Because government practices are the gold standard. . .

20sx 10-05-2019 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by No Land 3 (Post 2898011)
Really has nothing to do with being an RJ pilot. Older you get, the slower the learner you become. You can argue all you want, the proof is in the data. The FAA won't hire some one off the street to be an Air Traffic Controller if they won't finish their training by the age of 33? I am 39 and I don't pretend to hang with the 20 year olds. Getting old sucks.

Where's this data that regional old guys going to the majors have issues?

N6279P 10-06-2019 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by SureJetz (Post 2897980)
Oh, you've never heard of Canadian North flying those 737-200's up to BFE Canada? They've had a bunch of people fail out with thousands of hours on those CRJ's.... They can't hack those steam gauges and those archaic turbojet engines with no FADEC's...

This dude is probably some crusty old guy who hates RJ pilots..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_North

Just FYI, the 737-200 still had turbofan engines.

Cujo665 10-06-2019 05:58 AM


Originally Posted by No Land 3 (Post 2898011)
Really has nothing to do with being an RJ pilot. Older you get, the slower the learner you become. You can argue all you want, the proof is in the data. The FAA won't hire some one off the street to be an Air Traffic Controller if they won't finish their training by the age of 33? I am 39 and I don't pretend to hang with the 20 year olds. Getting old sucks.

That is more to due with their very early mandatory retirement age of 56 and pension rules worked out with their labor contracts than anything else.

No Land 3 10-06-2019 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by 20sx (Post 2898810)
Where's this data that regional old guys going to the majors have issues?

Never said the older guys fail out. Need to ask friends in the training departments. Often more sims are needed, more prep. Like I said earlier, ultimately it is the training environment that guarantees success, and the majors seem to be of the mindset of obtaining success with everyone they select.

20sx 10-06-2019 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by No Land 3 (Post 2899121)
Never said the older guys fail out. Need to ask friends in the training departments. Often more sims are needed, more prep. Like I said earlier, ultimately it is the training environment that guarantees success, and the majors seem to be of the mindset of obtaining success with everyone they select.

I never said you said they fail out;) However, I keep hearing anecdotal knowledge that older pilots are hard to train. I've heard it too. I've also seen where some young people are difficult too. Just curious if they're is actually any real data.

And I get it, people pass off fact on APC all the time with no actual real knowledge, just hearsay and rumor. Some of the "facts" here are worth as much as I'm paying for.

SureJetz 10-06-2019 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by N6279P (Post 2899093)
Just FYI, the 737-200 still had turbofan engines.

Well I stand corrected. The JT8D was an improved design on the earlier turbojet engine. Look like a turbojet and smokes like one but is not. Thanks

No Land 3 10-06-2019 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by SureJetz (Post 2899261)
Well I stand corrected. The JT8D was an improved design on the earlier turbojet engine. Look like a turbojet and smokes like one but is not. Thanks

There's turbofans and there's high bypass turbofans which everyone views as just turbofans these days. Look up the engines used on Convair 880's and 990's if you want some interesting reading.

PhantomHawk 10-06-2019 10:18 PM

It’s not just “being older” that makes the former regional lifer CA a difficult pilot to train. He/she is a difficult EMPLOYEE to train. 20+years, most of them as a CA....and now they’re gonna just adapt to being the most junior First Officer on the list. That’s where a lot of the difficulty comes from.


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