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#411
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Oh, you've never heard of Canadian North flying those 737-200's up to BFE Canada? They've had a bunch of people fail out with thousands of hours on those CRJ's.... They can't hack those steam gauges and those archaic turbojet engines with no FADEC's...
This dude is probably some crusty old guy who hates RJ pilots..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_North
This dude is probably some crusty old guy who hates RJ pilots..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_North
#412
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Really has nothing to do with being an RJ pilot. Older you get, the slower the learner you become. You can argue all you want, the proof is in the data. The FAA won't hire some one off the street to be an Air Traffic Controller if they won't finish their training by the age of 33? I am 39 and I don't pretend to hang with the 20 year olds. Getting old sucks.
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Really has nothing to do with being an RJ pilot. Older you get, the slower the learner you become. You can argue all you want, the proof is in the data. The FAA won't hire some one off the street to be an Air Traffic Controller if they won't finish their training by the age of 33? I am 39 and I don't pretend to hang with the 20 year olds. Getting old sucks.
#414
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Oh, you've never heard of Canadian North flying those 737-200's up to BFE Canada? They've had a bunch of people fail out with thousands of hours on those CRJ's.... They can't hack those steam gauges and those archaic turbojet engines with no FADEC's...
This dude is probably some crusty old guy who hates RJ pilots..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_North
This dude is probably some crusty old guy who hates RJ pilots..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_North
#415
Really has nothing to do with being an RJ pilot. Older you get, the slower the learner you become. You can argue all you want, the proof is in the data. The FAA won't hire some one off the street to be an Air Traffic Controller if they won't finish their training by the age of 33? I am 39 and I don't pretend to hang with the 20 year olds. Getting old sucks.
#416
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Never said the older guys fail out. Need to ask friends in the training departments. Often more sims are needed, more prep. Like I said earlier, ultimately it is the training environment that guarantees success, and the majors seem to be of the mindset of obtaining success with everyone they select.
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Never said the older guys fail out. Need to ask friends in the training departments. Often more sims are needed, more prep. Like I said earlier, ultimately it is the training environment that guarantees success, and the majors seem to be of the mindset of obtaining success with everyone they select.
However, I keep hearing anecdotal knowledge that older pilots are hard to train. I've heard it too. I've also seen where some young people are difficult too. Just curious if they're is actually any real data.And I get it, people pass off fact on APC all the time with no actual real knowledge, just hearsay and rumor. Some of the "facts" here are worth as much as I'm paying for.
#418
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#419
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There's turbofans and there's high bypass turbofans which everyone views as just turbofans these days. Look up the engines used on Convair 880's and 990's if you want some interesting reading.
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It’s not just “being older” that makes the former regional lifer CA a difficult pilot to train. He/she is a difficult EMPLOYEE to train. 20+years, most of them as a CA....and now they’re gonna just adapt to being the most junior First Officer on the list. That’s where a lot of the difficulty comes from.
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