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Old 10-21-2018 | 04:34 PM
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Are you guys in IAH really doing that bad?
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Old 10-21-2018 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
If we lose the CRJ700’s and/or the first 30 Ejets, the price will fall out of our stock price. There will be plenty of unhappy stock holders. The direction of things will be less predictable now that we are a public company.
Worst case scenario would open the door for ALPA preferential hiring at another ALPA carrier, most likely flying something bigger than an RJ.
I wouldn't worry about it, just do what you have to do, to move on up.
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Old 10-21-2018 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3
Worst case scenario would open the door for ALPA preferential hiring at another ALPA carrier, most likely flying something bigger than an RJ.
I wouldn't worry about it, just do what you have to do, to move on up.
I still think Mesa will end up being bought by someone...
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Old 10-21-2018 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by NovemberBravo
Are you guys in IAH really doing that bad?
We can’t seem to fly CAT II’s after 5 years of trying. CAT II’s is a contractual requirement in the United contract and our contract on the first 30 Ejets is up on June 1, 2019.
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Old 10-21-2018 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
I still think Mesa will end up being bought by someone...
We will know in the next few months.
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Old 10-22-2018 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
We can’t seem to fly CAT II’s after 5 years of trying. CAT II’s is a contractual requirement in the United contract and our contract on the first 30 Ejets is up on June 1, 2019.
Huh? You don’t do cat ii?
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Old 10-22-2018 | 11:42 AM
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Huh? You don’t do cat ii?
We can. We just don’t do them well. :-)
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Old 10-22-2018 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
We can. We just don’t do them well. :-)
Until people start following the checklist and callouts, we will never get out of the demonstration phase. The FAA isn’t going to let us just keep using the 1600RVR. I’m surprised they’ve given us this long when the average is 6 months to remove the 1600 limitation.
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Old 10-23-2018 | 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by backtoregionals
Until people start following the checklist and callouts, we will never get out of the demonstration phase. The FAA isn’t going to let us just keep using the 1600RVR. I’m surprised they’ve given us this long when the average is 6 months to remove the 1600 limitation.
If it were that simple..... our callouts suck. Designed by someone who doesn’t fly the line. Try doing those callouts on a busy day and still effectively work the radio. Too much ******ing chatter in the callouts.

Our latest attempt to fix the problem is just a bandaid. The FAA is simply letting us adjust our program. And, you are right, a properly designed CAT II procedure would be passed by the FAA in 6 months. And, the demonstration phase buys you 200 feet of visibility over CAT I. The FAA is pretty safe in letting us stay in the demonstration phase forever.

It won’t surprise me we lose all or part of the first 30 Ejets over it. I have already diverted over the difference between 1400 and 1600.

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Old 10-23-2018 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
If it were that simple..... our callouts suck. Designed by someone who doesn’t fly the line. Try doing those callouts on a busy day and still effectively work the radio. Too much ******ing chatter in the callouts.

Our latest attempt to fix the problem is just a bandaid. The FAA is simply letting us adjust our program. And, you are right, a properly designed CAT II procedure would be passed by the FAA in 6 months. And, the demonstration phase buys you 200 feet of visibility over CAT I. The FAA is pretty safe in letting us stay in the demonstration phase forever.

It won’t surprise me we lose all or part of the first 30 Ejets over it. I have already diverted over the difference between 1400 and 1600.
It is actually quite simple...either people learn it correctly, or we don’t get full CAT 2 privileges. I agree 200% the callouts SUCK, but again that doesn’t matter unfortunately.
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