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05-03-2018, 06:41 AM

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zondaracer

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Originally Posted by calmwinds

I thought Compass just signed the PHX CPA last year with AA.

Compass flying in PHX is all Delta. It’s basically an out station base.

05-03-2018, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by zondaracer

Compass flying in PHX is all Delta. It’s basically an out station base.

Not according to AA and their route map. AA signed a CPA to operate the Ejet out of PHX.

http://www.compassairline.com/aboutus/Pages/default.aspx

05-03-2018, 07:36 AM

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zondaracer

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Originally Posted by calmwinds

Not according to AA and their route map. AA signed a CPA to operate the Ejet out of PHX.

http://www.compassairline.com/aboutus/Pages/default.aspx

I don’t see any AA routes out of PHX on the Compass route map. My friends at Compass have confirmed that they are currently only doing DL flying out of PHX. The Compass PHX pilots don’t even get AA flight benefits.

Do you have a reference for E175 Compass CPA in PHX?

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/compass-airlines/108475-phx.html

05-03-2018, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by zondaracer

Oh, I see they fly for AA out of LAX.

05-03-2018, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bnkangle

I wouldn’t let that hold any weight. You may be sent elsewhere for sim. Plus being at home for training is too much of a distraction, especially initial.

He’s already typed, and has 700hrs in the airplane.

05-03-2018, 02:39 PM

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Doesn’t Envoy have a flow to AA? Why in god’s name would someone give that up to go to Mesa of all places?!?!

05-03-2018, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 175drvr

Doesn’t Envoy have a flow to AA? Why in god’s name would someone give that up to go to Mesa of all places?!?!

Forced upgrade to the 145 in LGA to sit on reserve for years when most people chose envoy for DFW is a good place to start.

05-03-2018, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 175drvr

Doesn’t Envoy have a flow to AA? Why in god’s name would someone give that up to go to Mesa of all places?!?!

Or how about if you are young you get last choice of aircraft and base which means you could in theory get the CRJ which has no Dallas base and be seatlocked until, I believe, said forced upgrade effectively not seeing a Dallas base for half a decade of not more when again you picked the company for a Dallas base.

05-03-2018, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by terks43

Forced upgrade to the 145 in LGA to sit on reserve for years when most people chose envoy for DFW is a good place to start.

You don’t have to pay back a signing bonus at Envoy?

05-05-2018, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Eckohs

Good morning. Just wanted to hop on here and get some information from those actually working here.

Currently a crj fo with Envoy, sitting at 700 hours sic. I live in Phoenix and am already sick of commuting to ord and am fearful of where I may end up once I upgrade. In addition I don’t like the writing on the wall over here and honestly think AA is a crappy parent to have.

Anyway I would appreciate any honest feedback you can give. I do know that Phx is more senior so I will most likely have a little bit of a wait and obviously lose my seniority, which is nice to have. How long are the upgrades taking now and are you as short on captains as Envoy?

Thanks

The Envoy flow will eventually drop to 5 years, while Mesa stands to reduce in size over that period as it cannot fill new hire classes.