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Old 07-27-2019, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by boeingdvr View Post
It’s not 1995 anymore. The 737 type is worth nada.
You can use it to wash one of the Boeing 737 Max's that is parked...to keep it shiny, and ready for the day, possibly sometime in the future, that you may actually get to fly it.
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Old 07-27-2019, 08:49 PM
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Welcome to the Mesa mentality.....there are some really good guys there but from my short stint I was SHOCKED at how bad the Stockholm syndrome is. Many of these guys have never been anywhere else or failed out of training somewhere else so they don’t know how bad they have it and would gladly screw over everyone in the industry to fly a “mainline” plane for CRJ or EJET rates. They always come back with the same sh*t which is laughable at best ....”oh 300%, oh quick upgrade”.....you guys are so Blind.....these things are not guaranteed in your WEAK contract.

This is an issue for us all because if Mesa guys accept their POS 73s for substandard rates and QOL they once again undermine everyone else and give ammunition to our companies that a group of F*cktard pilots will accept less than what they deserve if you dangle a rotten carrot in front of them.
Lol so angry you think we at mesa want to get paid practically industry low for our time? Especially for hauling freight in 73's? You think ANYONE in this industry likes working at regional pay? Because if you do you're an idiot. No one here wants low pay obviously we would like southern air or better pay on the 73's. So complaining to us like you know something that everyone else doesn't adds nothing to the conversation.
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Old 07-27-2019, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Avgeek7248 View Post
As long as the pay isn't cutting below other carriers and trying to entice fresh guy 1500 hour guys like CFI's who see a big shiny jet and don't care about the pay or base then it's not so bad. But, knowing this companies history.. If they come up to me and said hey we have these 73's we need staffed. We will pay for your type rating but you'll get crap pay with crap hours, long nights, and the only benefit is you're flying a 73! Yeah, I'll pass on that one.
I agree completely, in my life after Mesa it's become very clear that there is a direct link between the level of professionalism expected and provided and the hourly pay rate.
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Old 07-28-2019, 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Avgeek7248 View Post
Lol so angry you think we at mesa want to get paid practically industry low for our time? Especially for hauling freight in 73's? You think ANYONE in this industry likes working at regional pay? Because if you do you're an idiot. No one here wants low pay obviously we would like southern air or better pay on the 73's. So complaining to us like you know something that everyone else doesn't adds nothing to the conversation.
Current Southern Air pay for the 737 is pititful...
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Old 07-28-2019, 09:26 AM
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Ok, I appreciate you and the others that have answered what they hope for us. I’m not expecting legacy rates, but something comparable in the cargo world of 737 flying. I’m hoping/expecting rates for that aircraft along the lines of Spirit/Frontier/JetBlue and not just Southern’s old rates, but that will be up to the negotiationing committee and the MEC.
Well bud, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but year 3 rates at JB are $139/hr 15k 401 contribution and $1100 max out if pocket on our higher level insurance.....
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Old 07-28-2019, 06:08 PM
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Well bud, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but year 3 rates at JB are $139/hr 15k 401 contribution and $1100 max out if pocket on our higher level insurance.....
Doesn’t seem like bad news....
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Old 07-29-2019, 12:33 AM
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Doesn’t seem like bad news....
What do you think JO is going to offer?
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Old 07-29-2019, 04:17 AM
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What do you think JO is going to offer?
I don't think he'll offer anything. Theyll goto arbitration. The mesa people will make some case for higher wages, the company will say,"we're the lowest paying consistently, weve got a workforce that knew that and stayed here for whatever reason, they'll make sub standard wages and they'll like it just like they have for decades."

All of us will shrug and say, "makes sense". Mesa pilots will pretend victory is theirs. And they'll be in the guppy cargo circus as a background player never making it big.
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Old 07-29-2019, 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3 View Post
What do you think JO is going to offer?
CRJ 700 rates...
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Old 07-29-2019, 08:29 AM
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What do you think JO is going to offer?
Southern air rates for captains. Something considerably less for FOs.

That’s what he’ll offer, but it’s up to us to demand more.
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