Originally Posted by kevin18

People either don’t understand that or just don’t care.

Originally Posted by terks43

Good to see the operational meltdown beginning today. The company deserves it as a result of their own staggering incompetence. Hopefully no one picks up those set of flights. Need to learn to stop relying on the pilot group to bail them out of their own problems.

Originally Posted by jetlag q

I literally said this to an Fo a couple of days ago. The 300 % is good and more bad for the pilot group.

it’s good because we get an opportunity to get a ln increase in pay.

it’s bad because although one pilot gets increased pay for a series of flights the guy in the right seat is flying at straight pay. And so are so many others.

it’s bad because if we keep taking 300% the staffing level never gets corrected.

it’s bad because they pay rate never increases. To lore pilots to mesa.

but explain that to the new hire that’s getting 36/37 $ an hour who doesn’t even want to wait for the email to go from 200% to 300%.

Originally Posted by terks43

here’s a hint, if the company could hire 5% more people they would. The fact of the matter is with current pay they flat out can’t. And the only way they could hire more people then they are currently losing is by raising pay. I don’t know why that is so complicated. It’s not rocket science people.

Originally Posted by WhiteNoiz

First time posting here, so I’m sorry if this is the wrong place but this seems to be the most active thread.

I was called for an interview, and it’s scheduled in the next couple days. I’m interviewing for the ERJ, which I have not seen as many complaints about in this thread. I have pending interviews with a couple of other regionals too but from the way I see it Mesa is offering a much larger initial bonus (I understand hourly pay is trash), shorter upgrade time (according to the interviewer, so correct me if I have bad info), and a base with lower cost of living than any other regional is going to want to stick me (I’m not trying to commute).

All that being said, I see a lot of posts on here basically saying buyer beware. I have read most of this thread and I think I have an idea of what everyone’s mad about. So, my question to anyone reading this is: Is the QOL alone bad enough to turn down a CJO here? Or is it an ok place for someone who can make it work for them?

Any insight is appreciated

Originally Posted by terks43

Probably worth it. I wouldn’t commute to this company and IAD is super senior on the CA side. If IAH also consider SKW. Also depends on how long you plan on staying. This company doesn’t have many years left. So as long as you plan to be out in a few years that won’t be a factor. But if you are expecting a longer stay I would run away from this powder keg. We are becoming a senior pilot group. And when a regional becomes too heavy with top of the pay scale earners it gets undercut (just look at what happened to XJT) the same thing will happen here. The lifers of Mesa will bring about its downfall.

Originally Posted by Swarley

I couldn’t in good conscience advise you to take the offer here. But you can always take a chance on it and try to get in the aviate program with United to have a way out. Just know as of now, ERJ training is 6+ months and 3+ years to upgrade. I’m a few months away from my 4 year mark and still too junior to upgrade. Vastly different from when I first got here. I tell everyone to go after a wholly owned. They seem the most secure and offer a way out.

Originally Posted by TransWorld

Why is that? Are a large portion of the CA on the CRJ lifers, or what?

Originally Posted by Snapper86

Ain’t that the truth, the world of aviation has changed drastically over the past two years. FO’s with 500-1000 total 121 time are getting hired left and right to other airlines and fractionals. The old saying of needing to get 1,000 PIC in 121 is exactly that, OLD. Come to Mesa, you won’t sit reserve. Fly the line for 8 months and move on! If you sit around and don’t have a major training event for 4-5 years and you’re trying to apply elsewhere, that’s when you’re going to see it being harder to move on