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Old 12-09-2010 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
It's a shame that they couldn't have pulled off a regime change...that was what I really wanted to see out of this mess.
The fat lady hasn't sung/sang yet - the leader of the "new Mess-a" regime, if there is one, would probably be unveiled upon exit from BK.

Some think the destroyer's waiting in the wings, just like in The Naked Gun... probably been there all along, just waiting.

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Old 12-09-2010 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
I wasn't commenting on mesa's chances of getting more flying in general. I was pointing out that UA hates 50 seaters, and only wants 70's. If they lose their argument with CAL-ALPA odds are that they will have to add 50 seaters going forward, or maybe even downsize some 70's to 50's if they really get their butt handed to them. Just saying they are not going to to be adding 50's until that debate is resolved.

But regarding mesa and UA...there's some bad blood. That could be a problem if OJ and cohorts stay in charge.

Also the engine that drove the old mesa was not low costs...in my opinion their operational stupidities ate up a lot of their cost savings. What they really had going for them was that lucrative sweetheart deal with the AW 900's. That is now reduced to what one assumes are market rates, and mesa is very small for a jet regional. Their economies of scale for overhead (training, admin, MX, management, etc) are not good, most of their peers in that size range are wholly owned. I suspect this means that mesa will not be able to automatically undercut all other bidders going forward (unless they bid flying at a loss).

It's a shame that they couldn't have pulled off a regime change...that was what I really wanted to see out of this mess.
Yea, regime change would be huge. Interesting point about the economies of scale. Maybe someone buying us is still the best case scenario after BK exit. That or a massive attrition combined with new flying (for me at least).
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Old 12-11-2010 | 01:51 PM
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I'm gonna have to also agree with you both on this one! This Company didn't treat us the best, but I worked with some awesome people who are life long friends now! Can't wait to get back!
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Old 12-11-2010 | 02:37 PM
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Since they are recalling voluntary furloughs as well, I wonder how many of those senior guys will come back to fly the Dash.
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Old 12-13-2010 | 03:46 PM
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We will know soon because the Fed-Ex letters have been sent. Its not only dash. I believe its 4-6 for the Dash and 12 into the CRJ. They are having troubles with finding sim time for the Dash.
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Old 12-13-2010 | 07:51 PM
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How many letters went out? Any idea?
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Old 12-13-2010 | 10:11 PM
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I 'recall' it was close to 500 letters if I read the communication correctly...
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Old 12-13-2010 | 11:16 PM
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Dang. Thanks! Going to watch for the FEDEX person over the next few days.
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Old 12-14-2010 | 10:36 AM
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Could anyone here assume how long it will take to call all furloughed pilots back?
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Old 12-14-2010 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Rock752000
I 'recall' it was close to 500 letters if I read the communication correctly...
what communication? Did I miss something?
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