Mesa Recall Numbers
04-10-2011 | 10:38 AM
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Which is the most stupid idea of all time. Without some sort of forcast recall, You are guaranteed to fall behind and become short staffed because of the training gap. All the while more people are quitting which compunds the problem...Oh wait were already having problems/cancelling for staffing in PHX and now it had bled over to ORD... unacceptable
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What you guys don’t seem to get is that ‘short staffing’ is a model they embrace because it directly and immediately helps them tactically, even if it ultimately fails them strategically. From a cost perspective I'm certain if they are not doing a certain amount of Jr assigning then they are losing money. These are business decisions, the wisdom of which notwithstanding; they are cold and calculated - end of story.
And I agree with FLY IFR; yes, we all have battered wife syndrome.
What surprises me is that we continue to be surprised.
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04-10-2011 | 12:27 PM
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You: preacher
Me: choir
What you guys don’t seem to get is that ‘short staffing’ is a model they embrace because it directly and immediately helps them tactically, even if it ultimately fails them strategically. From a cost perspective I'm certain if they are not doing a certain amount of Jr assigning then they are losing money. These are business decisions, the wisdom of which notwithstanding; they are cold and calculated - end of story.
And I agree with FLY IFR; yes, we all have battered wife syndrome.
What surprises me is that we continue to be surprised.
Me: choir
What you guys don’t seem to get is that ‘short staffing’ is a model they embrace because it directly and immediately helps them tactically, even if it ultimately fails them strategically. From a cost perspective I'm certain if they are not doing a certain amount of Jr assigning then they are losing money. These are business decisions, the wisdom of which notwithstanding; they are cold and calculated - end of story.
And I agree with FLY IFR; yes, we all have battered wife syndrome.
What surprises me is that we continue to be surprised.
04-10-2011 | 01:10 PM
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I believe the industry term is called "Right Sizing". For what I don't know but I have a feeling something is in the works.
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04-10-2011 | 01:21 PM
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These are business decisions? Anyone who has taken a 100 level business course in college would recognize these as terrible business decisions. Yeah we are in terrible shape as it is and they are going to continue to blow any little chance they have of United resigning a contract with them. If I was United management I would be very angry as well. I would make an ultimatum with MAG and tell them I would resign them as long as they got a whole new management team who knew what the hell they were doing, enough is enough already! If you are short staffed and junior assigning people, all signs point to bringing more people on property, it's common sense! Sometimes I seriously wonder if MAG management is purposely trying to do this for some sick and twisted reason...
Trust me, I’m on your side. I'm just trying to point out that they have always and will always manage staffing right on the ragged edge. Its simple cost benefit analysis. They are willing to risk unhappy pilots, a few crew cancellations, and JR pay to avoid having a dozen, or twenty, or even one too many pilots.
Problem is there is a lag time when things can get really ugly fast and they don't have enough time to get new pilots through the pipeline to avert a catastrophe during a summer of intense mainline hiring for example. But again, they don't care, because enduring an ugly summer here and there is still cheaper than maintaining extra staffing just incase.
I'm pretty sure none of this has anything to do with whether United renews with us or not. Can anyone point to a time when Crew Cancellations were so rampant that mainline started complaining? I'd be interested to know.
04-10-2011 | 01:24 PM
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04-10-2011 | 01:38 PM
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Message from the company: (my paraphrase) The 29 scheduled recalls for the remaining four months of the fiscal year have been put on hold as we are waiting to see what happens with future attrition. The recalls that are already on the property (also 29) are not affected and will hit the line on May 1.
Sorry if this has already been posted.
Sorry if this has already been posted.
04-10-2011 | 01:46 PM
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Yeah, when they failed to renew/cancelled our contracts for 26 CRJ 200's and 10 Dash 8's. And when Delta cancelled our contract for 35 ERJ's
04-10-2011 | 01:49 PM
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If I recall around 07-08 things were pretty bad and mainline was getting a little upset with all the cancellations. This was obviously because of the hiring boom, lateral movement etc, so they couldn't get enough people through training fast enough or as fast as people were leaving.
04-10-2011 | 01:49 PM
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Message from the company: (my paraphrase) The 29 scheduled recalls for the remaining four months of the fiscal year have been put on hold as we are waiting to see what happens with future attrition. The recalls that are already on the property (also 29) are not affected and will hit the line on May 1.
Sorry if this has already been posted.
Sorry if this has already been posted.
04-10-2011 | 03:00 PM
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