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08-20-2013 | 04:39 AM
#141
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From: Bob's Big Boy Front Office Staffer
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
A pulse and ATP mins. Phone interview only.
I remember in 2004 wearing a suit and tie at some fancy Phoenix hotel, and interviewing with two pilots to hopefully get a job at Mesa. Phone interview for a pilot position? One of many indications on where this company and industry is heading. Enjoy reserve new hires!
Originally Posted by CBreezy
A pulse and ATP mins. Phone interview only.
I remember in 2004 wearing a suit and tie at some fancy Phoenix hotel, and interviewing with two pilots to hopefully get a job at Mesa. Phone interview for a pilot position? One of many indications on where this company and industry is heading. Enjoy reserve new hires!
I'm being told Mesa needs hundreds of pilots and from credible sources. However mgmt. has made no effort to really assemble the required manpower for such a task beyond 2 senior pilots doing interviews and fairs.
Mesa will **** any additional flying away due to the Mgmt. team's complete over bloated ego thinking pilots with SJS will grovel for this job.?
They'll be right but only when those E175s show.
08-20-2013 | 06:04 AM
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First, thanks everyone for answering my previous questions. Here is a couple more.
How many pilots has Mesa hired lately? Is it 20 per class and one class per month. Will this continue into 2014?
How long is reserve right now at Charlotte, Chicago or Washington? I’m guessing it has been pretty long, but with all the new hires this time should come down, right? Is Mesa still low on FOs like they were this spring?
How many pilots has Mesa hired lately? Is it 20 per class and one class per month. Will this continue into 2014?
How long is reserve right now at Charlotte, Chicago or Washington? I’m guessing it has been pretty long, but with all the new hires this time should come down, right? Is Mesa still low on FOs like they were this spring?
08-20-2013 | 06:24 AM
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From: Bob's Big Boy Front Office Staffer
First, thanks everyone for answering my previous questions. Here is a couple more.
How many pilots has Mesa hired lately? Is it 20 per class and one class per month. Will this continue into 2014?
How long is reserve right now at Charlotte, Chicago or Washington? I’m guessing it has been pretty long, but with all the new hires this time should come down, right? Is Mesa still low on FOs like they were this spring?
How many pilots has Mesa hired lately? Is it 20 per class and one class per month. Will this continue into 2014?
How long is reserve right now at Charlotte, Chicago or Washington? I’m guessing it has been pretty long, but with all the new hires this time should come down, right? Is Mesa still low on FOs like they were this spring?
Answers :
80-90 pilots so far ? Yes, Yes, and Yes it will continue into 2014.
Reserve is super short (1-2mo.) with most new hires already having lines in CLT and IAD. Very few pilots make it to Hawaii for their mini vacays
before they can hold IAD or CLT as a base. ORD and PHX have senior FO's on Reserve.
Excluding PHX all other bases remain short on reserves.(RedLine)
Typical lines are from 88 to 98 hour lines. Incentive flying (200%) and JRA's happening intermittently...
Last edited by FerrisBluer; 08-20-2013 at 06:39 AM.
08-20-2013 | 07:02 AM
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mmm, an ORD base would be super nice. I live 20 minutes from the north side of the airport...
08-20-2013 | 07:28 AM
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Wow…..the reserve times has really come down. Any information about what causes people to wash out (beside what FerrisBluer already mentioned).
08-20-2013 | 10:33 AM
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Is life at Mesa what it used to be? Crappy? I'd hoped they changed their act around...And what's with the contract?
08-20-2013 | 12:01 PM
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Both instructors said they'd take a 300 hour MAPD graduate any day because the experience some of these high hour guys have does not translate well into flying a glass jet under 121 procedures, and because of age, their lessening mental plasticity is working against them. Very frustrating for the teachers I'm hearing.
Personally, I think the rule is a govt. overreaction, self defeating, and not based in science. i.e. totally stupid in my opinion!
One examiner, sorrowfully, told me he's failed more guys in the last 30 days than his entire career. He is not proud of it.
My 4 suggestions for a successful sim experience:
-Do it the way they teach you!
-Learn the call outs COLD. Regardless if you fly well or not, knowing the call outs cold will get you through.
-Keep a good attitude, smile, take criticism in stride, don't be proud.
-Keep your nose in the damn' crotch! PERIOD!!!
(that means stay in the flight director with intense zeal!)
08-20-2013 | 02:44 PM
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Any information about what causes people to wash out (beside what FerrisBluer already mentioned).
I've heard from two different sim instructors that they're having a lot of problems with older guys in their fifties who have managed, over a lifetime, to accumulate 1500 hours tooling around in a 182.
Both instructors said they'd take a 300 hour MAPD graduate any day because the experience some of these high hour guys have does not translate well into flying a glass jet under 121 procedures, and because of age, their lessening mental plasticity is working against them. Very frustrating for the teachers I'm hearing.
Personally, I think the rule is a govt. overreaction, self defeating, and not based in science. i.e. totally stupid in my opinion!
One examiner, sorrowfully, told me he's failed more guys in the last 30 days than his entire career. He is not proud of it.
My 4 suggestions for a successful sim experience:
-Do it the way they teach you!
-Learn the call outs COLD. Regardless if you fly well or not, knowing the call outs cold will get you through.
-Keep a good attitude, smile, take criticism in stride, don't be proud.
-Keep your nose in the damn' crotch! PERIOD!!!
(that means stay in the flight director with intense zeal!)
Originally Posted by prydb
Any information about what causes people to wash out (beside what FerrisBluer already mentioned).
I've heard from two different sim instructors that they're having a lot of problems with older guys in their fifties who have managed, over a lifetime, to accumulate 1500 hours tooling around in a 182.
Both instructors said they'd take a 300 hour MAPD graduate any day because the experience some of these high hour guys have does not translate well into flying a glass jet under 121 procedures, and because of age, their lessening mental plasticity is working against them. Very frustrating for the teachers I'm hearing.
Personally, I think the rule is a govt. overreaction, self defeating, and not based in science. i.e. totally stupid in my opinion!
One examiner, sorrowfully, told me he's failed more guys in the last 30 days than his entire career. He is not proud of it.
My 4 suggestions for a successful sim experience:
-Do it the way they teach you!
-Learn the call outs COLD. Regardless if you fly well or not, knowing the call outs cold will get you through.
-Keep a good attitude, smile, take criticism in stride, don't be proud.
-Keep your nose in the damn' crotch! PERIOD!!!
(that means stay in the flight director with intense zeal!)
Great response (Sulkair) I agree 100%.
Positive Attitude, STUDY GROUPS!!!!!
Know your Systems, Limitations, Callouts, Memory Items and once in the SIM "Put it in the Pink."
The better you know this going into SIM the better the experience. Trust me...
gvinflightIs life at Mesa what it used to be? Crappy? I'd hoped they changed their act around...And what's with the contract?
The contract is nothing but a Vague, elementary piece of dribble agreed upon by men in suits. At every turn it can and will be interpreted toward the companies favor.
Pilots' are continously told by Mgmt. to "GRIEVE IT" and that is that.
Last edited by FerrisBluer; 08-20-2013 at 03:11 PM.
08-20-2013 | 03:39 PM
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From: V1. No turning back now.
huh. I had hoped things would have gotten better in the last few years. im sorry to hear that. but hopefully things will be turning around with the majors and our time at the regionals wont be much longer.
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