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Old 07-25-2014 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Beech90
One more question: Are CRJ fos holding out up bid erj captains there?
PHX FOs ... Yes seems like they have been holding out for EMJ IAH... PHX to IAH is easier than say PHX to CLT, or IAD commute.

CLT, IAD FOs that are commuting from the Texas area are as well taking/holding out for IAH EMJ.

CLT, ORD, IAD guys that live east of say the Mississippi are all taking CRJ upgrade as it comes.

As the west coast CRJ operation expands I think you will begin to see the EMJ start going junior as IAH is the only definite base (ORD is not announced yet, but strong rumors.)

Lots of west coast FOs thought the best case commute would be IAH but now PHX is expanding and more junior Captains (2013 upgrades) can hold PHX. So as they see that those guys may change their bids to CRJ CA from EMJ CA.

Most guys (FOs) have only flown the CRJ and don't really have any SJS for the E175, since it pays the same. They just want to upgrade to the equipment that is the easiest commute.

Personally I can hold CRJ CA now but I'm holding out for EMJ CA as I have time and type from RAH and it'll be fun to go back to my old jet. That and I am ready for a change from IAD.

Throw in 20+ new CRJ700's for DFW and who knows what will happen.

Lots of upgrades, lots of hiring I think for the next 3+ years.
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Wouldn't it be better for your negotiating position if they had trouble hiring for the next 3+ years? I get that you guys are happy about the growth, but it destroys your bargaining position when you fill classes because of it.


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Old 07-25-2014 | 09:42 AM
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Wouldn't it be better for your negotiating position if they had trouble hiring for the next 3+ years? I get that you guys are happy about the growth, but it destroys your bargaining position when you fill classes because of it.


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Old 07-25-2014 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Shiner
Wouldn't it be better for your negotiating position if they had trouble hiring for the next 3+ years? I get that you guys are happy about the growth, but it destroys your bargaining position when you fill classes because of it.
That's really working out for Great Lakes.
Old 07-25-2014 | 10:28 AM
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A lot of the Mesa guys are more concerned about upgrade time than bargaining power. Growth ensures that and stability, and it helps you get to your base of choice sooner.
Old 07-25-2014 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Shiner
Wouldn't it be better for your negotiating position if they had trouble hiring for the next 3+ years? I get that you guys are happy about the growth, but it destroys your bargaining position when you fill classes because of it.


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Where in my comments did I say that I was happy with our contract or that we are getting plenty of new hires? I simply said we will need to hire and upgrade indefinitely for the next few years.
Old 07-25-2014 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
A lot of the Mesa guys are more concerned about upgrade time than bargaining power.
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Old 07-25-2014 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by prior121
Where in my comments did I say that I was happy with our contract or that we are getting plenty of new hires? I simply said we will need to hire and upgrade indefinitely for the next few years.

Few years? Iraq wont have an air force by the time you guys are done. Think of the people of Iraq broseph!
Old 07-25-2014 | 11:07 AM
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Where in my comments did I say that I was happy with our contract or that we are getting plenty of new hires? I simply said we will need to hire and upgrade indefinitely for the next few years.





Few years? Iraq wont have an air force by the time you guys are done. Think of the people of Iraq broseph!


Ah your slippin biter, that one didn't even get a chuckle out of me.
Old 07-25-2014 | 11:12 AM
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I'll step my game up for you bro. Anything for one of the 121username brosephs.
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