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ScottyDo , 03-02-2015 12:11 PM

Chief Engineer

You would think management would be all over this since it is hurting our on time performance.

#6762

Navmode , 03-02-2015 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottyDo

You would think management would be all over this since it is hurting our on time performance.

Mesa management has been the reason for the improvement. It's aag that's apparently full dgaf mode. For example, half the gate doors to the ramp have keys but only (20?) line holding captains have keys? That's stupid; they should all have a code like everywhere else. All the gates are manned by (1) gate agent at a time, who often isn't the same person working the in/out flight, so once the gate is parked they disappear. It's ridiculous. Charlotte is the sangri-lá of operations compared to DFW.

All of this is without mentioning the rampers, which is a story for the grandkids in itself.

#6763

ScottyDo , 03-02-2015 01:03 PM

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Okay so I just finished IOE last week. (DFW based) and just got a call saying I was given a line for the entire month. I'm confused. I just looked on crew web and sure enough a line for all of this month.

#6764

Darant , 03-02-2015 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottyDo

Okay so I just finished IOE last week. (DFW based) and just got a call saying I was given a line for the entire week. I'm confused. I just looked on crew web and sure enough a line for all of this month.

Probably for consolidation purposes. Happened to everyone in my class. Some guys got a line assigned for a whole month while the rest of us being the majority got trips assigned weekly or so.

Once consolidated, assume your flying will drop off significantly till you get a line.

#6765

ScottyDo , 03-02-2015 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Darant

Entire month I mean.

#6766

Blackwing , 03-02-2015 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Darant

Once consolidated, assume your flying will drop off significantly till you get a line.

This.

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#6767

tinman1 , 03-02-2015 06:47 PM

sippin' dat koolaid

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Originally Posted by milehighskyline

Quite to the contrary good sir. I base my choice on a number of factors. Every one has their own opinion and choices to make. I chose mesa for both the quick up grade time and the fact that I have residence in two of their bases = QOL. It just works out better for me and i am willing to forgo some pay for the convince. Thats all.

Plus we now have music when on hold with crew tracking as opposed to the awkward silence before. Clearly we are moving up in the world

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Darant , 03-02-2015 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottyDo

Entire month I mean.

Yeah, sorry if I wasn't clear. Some guys from my class got a line the first month out of IOE. They do it to consolidate you. Of course there are notenough lines open to give to everyone. Once you get that 100 hours you will be on reserve and get random flights until you get an actual line.

You got lucky mang. Enjoy!

#6769

ScottyDo , 03-02-2015 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Darant

Ah ok, makes sense, thanks!

#6770

Paid2fly , 03-02-2015 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Darant

Actually, industry wide attrition is picking up. As for Mesa, we do have a large group of captains that wont be going anywhere based on their timing in the industry, 9/11, economy, etc. With the addition of the 7 CRJ's and a very, very good chance of additional airframes from other places (wink,wink ) there is a good chance the upgrades will still be much quicker then the regional average.

CBreezy - I assume you are at PSA? You find yourself in a wonderful situation if that's the case as far as movement is concerned.

Facebiter - I think the loyalty and general passion of the Skywest employee group speaks volumes about the quality of company that Skywest is. There is no disputing that. Even more so the fact that we are talking about an airline. Upgrade times are not everything, and we can all attest to the fact that many of the candidates that have the time requirements to be a captain may not have the knowledge and/or skill to do so. But upgrade times ARE in fact a big deal to many people. Quality of live and commuting are also huge factors.

Every company that is going through a growth period will at some time reach a point where the growth slows, stops or even retracts (read Envoy). Envoy is a great company as well. I have a number of friends who work there and very much like it. Envoy at one time had the growth that PSA and Mesa are experiencing today. PSA and Mesa will slow in growth at some point as well.

Point is...

Anyone on their high horse about the company they work for (Mesa or PSA included) are kidding themselves. EVERY company will go through changes. In fact, I can honestly say that I see Skywest going through some of those tough times where maybe they have to make decisions maybe not so popular with their employee group but they do it for the good of the company. Skywest for example cannot continue to compete with the cost structures of companies such as Gojet, Mesa, PSA, TSA, Compass, etc. unless they go through some cost cutting measures as well. I guarantee it. While people consider these airlines to be "bottom feeders", they exist because the market dictates them to exist. AAG wanted cheaper regional cost, they strong armed their way to getting it with Envoy. Do you think your brothers and sister pilots at Mesa or PSA had ANY control or say over that happening? No sir.

The point you're missing is that if pilots would stop selling out and working for the "bottom feeders", then those "bottom feeders" would have no choice other than improving the pay and benefits to staff those places! The cheerleading being done for employment with J.O., Hulas, and B.B., etc. is not helpful to the profession, or any employees of those "bottom feeders" in attaining improvements in their respective contracts!