Mesa
08-29-2014 | 08:48 PM
#2811
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All jokes aside.
Just got a friend hired here..so here's the scoop..
Yes still doing phone interviews....
Gotta know someone on the inside or have a very good resume to get the call with no recommendation. (4 year degree from aviation school, plus ATP mins or ATP-R mins, no more than 2 busts, etc)
Lots of guys getting canned (or
given option to resign) during training, IOE or during first 6 months online. About 60-70% of guys are making it thru ground, system, and IOE.
So as guys have said before your interview is about 12 months, starting the first day of ground continuing all the way to the last day of being a probationary pilot.
Alvin Isaacs and Chuck Campbell are good good guys. Not the airline or chief pilots that were here four years ago.
Just got a friend hired here..so here's the scoop..
Yes still doing phone interviews....
Gotta know someone on the inside or have a very good resume to get the call with no recommendation. (4 year degree from aviation school, plus ATP mins or ATP-R mins, no more than 2 busts, etc)
Lots of guys getting canned (or
given option to resign) during training, IOE or during first 6 months online. About 60-70% of guys are making it thru ground, system, and IOE.
So as guys have said before your interview is about 12 months, starting the first day of ground continuing all the way to the last day of being a probationary pilot.
Alvin Isaacs and Chuck Campbell are good good guys. Not the airline or chief pilots that were here four years ago.
Edit:
Did a little research project. Out of strings of consecutive employee numbers on the seniority list, only 15 missing numbers out of 150 pilots hired up to 6/5/14 since the beginning of the year. That comes out to around 90% of pilots hired are still here. While that is no doubt an imperfect way to calculate it (they seem to skip groups of numbers at the change of the month for some reason), it certainly points more towards a 90% retention than 60-70% in the last 6 months.
Last edited by Xdashdriver; 08-29-2014 at 09:08 PM.
08-29-2014 | 08:51 PM
#2812
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Typical. Anyone pointing out the glaring facts must've "washed out" of training.
I hope all you CFI's reading this thread see that 30-40% washout number. Is the shortcut worth a 30-40% chance your career will be forever tarnished?
It should really PO the current employees, the company can't afford a raise but can afford letting a tremendous number wash out of very expensive training.
The only reason Mesa does not interview is to get the otherwise unhireable in the door. It's not to save money on interviewing since they spend many times that in wasted training.
A-mazing.
I hope all you CFI's reading this thread see that 30-40% washout number. Is the shortcut worth a 30-40% chance your career will be forever tarnished?
It should really PO the current employees, the company can't afford a raise but can afford letting a tremendous number wash out of very expensive training.
The only reason Mesa does not interview is to get the otherwise unhireable in the door. It's not to save money on interviewing since they spend many times that in wasted training.
A-mazing.
08-29-2014 | 08:53 PM
#2813
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Joined: Jun 2013
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"News at 11, who is REALLY flying your airplane, a disturbing look at a regional airline...."
08-29-2014 | 09:28 PM
#2815
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All jokes aside.
Just got a friend hired here..so here's the scoop..
Yes still doing phone interviews....
Gotta know someone on the inside or have a very good resume to get the call with no recommendation. (4 year degree from aviation school, plus ATP mins or ATP-R mins, no more than 2 busts, etc)
Lots of guys getting canned (or
given option to resign) during training, IOE or during first 6 months online. About 60-70% of guys are making it thru ground, system, and IOE.
So as guys have said before your interview is about 12 months, starting the first day of ground continuing all the way to the last day of being a probationary pilot.
Alvin Isaacs and Chuck Campbell are good good guys. Not the airline or chief pilots that were here four years ago.
Just got a friend hired here..so here's the scoop..
Yes still doing phone interviews....
Gotta know someone on the inside or have a very good resume to get the call with no recommendation. (4 year degree from aviation school, plus ATP mins or ATP-R mins, no more than 2 busts, etc)
Lots of guys getting canned (or
given option to resign) during training, IOE or during first 6 months online. About 60-70% of guys are making it thru ground, system, and IOE.
So as guys have said before your interview is about 12 months, starting the first day of ground continuing all the way to the last day of being a probationary pilot.
Alvin Isaacs and Chuck Campbell are good good guys. Not the airline or chief pilots that were here four years ago.
I've heard Compass is becoming lenient on the degree and RATPs. Not to start a regional flame war, but I don't believe Mesa is more competitive than Compass.
08-29-2014 | 10:04 PM
#2816
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08-29-2014 | 10:47 PM
#2817
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Joined: Mar 2013
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From: 175 Left
30-40% failure rate?!?????!!! You do realize that's like 20x the failure rate at any decent regional. Right?
And that's even with a "very, very, forgiving" training department.
Green on barely 1,000hr 121 Captains. What could possibly go wrong?
Funny post 121. You have me ELOHEL'ing.
And that's even with a "very, very, forgiving" training department.
Green on barely 1,000hr 121 Captains. What could possibly go wrong?
Funny post 121. You have me ELOHEL'ing.
08-29-2014 | 10:49 PM
#2818
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From: 175 Left
Quote:
Originally Posted by prior121
All jokes aside.
Just got a friend hired here..so here's the scoop..
Yes still doing phone interviews....
Gotta know someone on the inside or have a very good resume to get the call with no recommendation. (4 year degree from aviation school, plus ATP mins or ATP-R mins, no more than 2 busts, etc)
Lots of guys getting canned (or
given option to resign) during training, IOE or during first 6 months online. About 60-70% of guys are making it thru ground, system, and IOE.
So as guys have said before your interview is about 12 months, starting the first day of ground continuing all the way to the last day of being a probationary pilot.
Alvin Isaacs and Chuck Campbell are good good guys. Not the airline or chief pilots that were here four years ago.
The training department claims a 90% pass rate, so I am wondering how the 60-70% thing comes into play?
Edit:
Did a little research project. Out of strings of consecutive employee numbers on the seniority list, only 15 missing numbers out of 150 pilots hired up to 6/5/14 since the beginning of the year. That comes out to around 90% of pilots hired are still here. While that is no doubt an imperfect way to calculate it (they seem to skip groups of numbers at the change of the month for some reason), it certainly points more towards a 90% retention than 60-70% in the last 6 months.
Originally Posted by prior121
All jokes aside.
Just got a friend hired here..so here's the scoop..
Yes still doing phone interviews....
Gotta know someone on the inside or have a very good resume to get the call with no recommendation. (4 year degree from aviation school, plus ATP mins or ATP-R mins, no more than 2 busts, etc)
Lots of guys getting canned (or
given option to resign) during training, IOE or during first 6 months online. About 60-70% of guys are making it thru ground, system, and IOE.
So as guys have said before your interview is about 12 months, starting the first day of ground continuing all the way to the last day of being a probationary pilot.
Alvin Isaacs and Chuck Campbell are good good guys. Not the airline or chief pilots that were here four years ago.
The training department claims a 90% pass rate, so I am wondering how the 60-70% thing comes into play?
Edit:
Did a little research project. Out of strings of consecutive employee numbers on the seniority list, only 15 missing numbers out of 150 pilots hired up to 6/5/14 since the beginning of the year. That comes out to around 90% of pilots hired are still here. While that is no doubt an imperfect way to calculate it (they seem to skip groups of numbers at the change of the month for some reason), it certainly points more towards a 90% retention than 60-70% in the last 6 months.
08-29-2014 | 11:34 PM
#2820
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Joined: Sep 2006
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From: ERJ CA
The training department claims a 90% pass rate, so I am wondering how the 60-70% thing comes into play?
Edit:
Did a little research project. Out of strings of consecutive employee numbers on the seniority list, only 15 missing numbers out of 150 pilots hired up to 6/5/14 since the beginning of the year. That comes out to around 90% of pilots hired are still here. While that is no doubt an imperfect way to calculate it (they seem to skip groups of numbers at the change of the month for some reason), it certainly points more towards a 90% retention than 60-70% in the last 6 months.
Edit:
Did a little research project. Out of strings of consecutive employee numbers on the seniority list, only 15 missing numbers out of 150 pilots hired up to 6/5/14 since the beginning of the year. That comes out to around 90% of pilots hired are still here. While that is no doubt an imperfect way to calculate it (they seem to skip groups of numbers at the change of the month for some reason), it certainly points more towards a 90% retention than 60-70% in the last 6 months.
Right now, a CRJ class of 18 starts every two weeks, and a 175 class of 10 starts once a month. So either the company thinks the pilot pool is gonna dry up completely, or more airplanes are coming.
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