Originally Posted by deltajuliet

It could be that JO himself just got blindsided by this. How many planes is AA giving out in total over the next few years, anyway? I'm sure there are a few more planned.

Originally Posted by Snickers

You know those planes they are just 'giving out over the next few years' are coming at the expense of your peers right? Seems like a pretty inappropriate time to be drooling over Eagle flying...

Originally Posted by Navmode

Just so we're clear, the speculation was about additional airplanes, rather than transfers from envoy. Mesa owns all of the airplanes in the crj fleet.

Originally Posted by 24/48

Sorry flaps but your post is riddled with emotional SJS drivel, and if you knew anything about what is going on in the industry then you would understand that it's more than just getting the beloved wide body seat.

As a United pilot myself I'd like to address the hiring. We are interviewing 26 a week for the foreseeable future. Of which about 71% are successful. We need to hire 1600 pilots by spring 2016. Starting in 2015 we will be averaging 2 wide body deliveries a month, 2 narrow body deliveries a month, and are actively seeking used 737-700/A319 aircraft instead of E190/CS3000 aircraft. United and ALPA have teamed up and have been putting on job fairs for ALPA pilots ONLY.

As far as upgrade or wide body flying...all I can say is that I am moving up an average of 30 numbers a month (65 from August to September) and those numbers are expected to increase. Some new hires are currently being hired on to the 757/767 fleet flying to Europe, and Hawaii.



I know several folks at Emirates, of which some are looking for recommendations here at UAL. The main reason is that the novelty of flying the heavy jets has worn off and the abusive schedules, and long distance from family has set in. That may very well change if you can be based in the states but so goes the tax free pay, and luxurious living conditions enjoyed in DXB.

I can tell you from personal experience as a current UAL 777 FO, the novelty has worn off and I'm ready for a change. Simply put, everything gets old after a while, especially long haul/ultra long haul flying, and that is all you'll ever do at Emirates/Etihad/Qatar. Oh yeah, Qatar doesn't have a seniority list, all merit based, awesome!!!



Agreed that the railway labor act is out-dated and needs a major wholesaling. But lets talk about scope. If you understood both the DAL and UAL scope sections then you would notice that scope is being dealt with, pretty vigorously I might add. I will also add that the gauge increase in the UAL contract is a direct result of DAL's contract. In other words, we couldn't ask for all the good stuff that the DAL pilots enjoy without some of the bad. That said, both scope sections reduce dramatically the overall size of the RJ population. The UAL contract goes a step further....as they park the 50 seaters and replace them with 70/76 seaters (including the Q400's) at a rate of about 2.3:1 we also reduce the narrow body block hour percentage those 70/76 seaters can fly. This is why UAL is actively looking at the used 737-700/A319 market. We are decreasing regional utilization and increasing mainline utilization, sounds good to me.



ALPA-PAC has nothing to do with contracts dealing with QOL/pay/etc. The PAC has everything to do with making sure this profession doesn't go the way of the maritime industry. Sure those foreign airlines pay more than the regionals but they fall short of the majors and when the novelty of flying the heavies is worn out you have no recourse, suck it up because they have pilots in the pipeline from Singapore giddy about making $50 an hour flying "sparky" (787) around.

Be careful what you wish for! Also, do a little research before you post. But you at least answered a question from an earlier post of mine, apparently Skywest pilots are not actively engaged in the profession and simply wait around until the next unionized regional makes some gains that will eventually get Jerry to pony up. Awesome!

Originally Posted by 20sx

Agreed, the earlier speculation discussed the hunt in South America (?) for crj 700's.

Originally Posted by Snickers

How many planes is AA giving out in total over the next few years, anyway? I'm sure there are a few more planned.




The hunt in South America for CR7s for AA to give out??

I must be missing something...

Originally Posted by deltajuliet

When I first posted that, I had it in my head that AA was giving 700's to PSA, not transferring them from Envoy. Hadn't read the story closely enough before posting; my mistake. It seemed surprising because I had heard a few rumors about Mesa acquiring some more 700's for the American feed.

But for clarification, are these alleged (South American?) 700's to be bought by Mesa or by AA and then lent to Mesa?

Originally Posted by Navmode

Bought by mesa. I'm just highlighting that any new flying hasn't involved taking anyone else's airplanes.

Originally Posted by Navmode

Bought by mesa. I'm just highlighting that any new flying hasn't involved taking anyone else's airplanes.