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Old 09-07-2014 | 11:09 AM
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Bought by mesa. I'm just highlighting that any new flying hasn't involved taking anyone else's airplanes.





How could Mesa afford new planes? That $30m credit card we just announced doesn't seem like the best way to finance a number of aircraft, nor is it enough.
Um, you understand when you go to a bank for a loan with 30 mil in cash they will give you 300-400 million right?

And to everyone who jumped all over me for saying AE's 700's went to PSA....

I was never implying or did I think we were getting those aircraft, these would be separate Mesa owned aircraft.
Old 09-07-2014 | 11:13 AM
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Um, you understand when you go to a bank for a loan with 30 mil in cash they will give you 300-400 million right?

And to everyone who jumped all over me for saying AE's 700's went to PSA....

I was never implying or did I think we were getting those aircraft, these would be separate Mesa owned aircraft.

Mesa doesn't have $30 million cash. Or at least they didn't a few months ago.
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Originally Posted by prior121
Um, you understand when you go to a bank for a loan with 30 mil in cash they will give you 300-400 million right?

And to everyone who jumped all over me for saying AE's 700's went to PSA....

I was never implying or did I think we were getting those aircraft, these would be separate Mesa owned aircraft.
What interest rate do you get with a recent bankruptcy?
Old 09-07-2014 | 01:04 PM
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Mesa Air Group Completes $30 Million Working Capital Draw Loan | Business Wire

They have 30 million now.
Old 09-07-2014 | 01:10 PM
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Mesa doesn't have $30 million cash. Or at least they didn't a few months ago.
Re-Read your recent press releases.
Old 09-07-2014 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by prior121
Re-Read your recent press releases.

That's not cash. It's a draw loan. Hence my previous reference to it as a "credit card". You're right, if they had $30m cash to spare, it'd be easy to finance a few aircraft. From the little I saw, though, Mesa wasn't in a particularly strong financial position.
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Re-Read your recent press releases.





That's not cash. It's a draw loan. Hence my previous reference to it as a "credit card". You're right, if they had $30m cash to spare, it'd be easy to finance a few aircraft. From the little I saw, though, Mesa wasn't in a particularly strong financial position.
That's how business works. You use that as cash for a larger loan.
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You guys need to look up "Working Capital" and see what you use it for and why you take a loan out for it.
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Originally Posted by prior121
That's how business works. You use that as cash for a larger loan.
You use it for for short term operational needs and liabilities (wages payable, accounts payable) when you don't have enough readily liquid assets (no cash, but accounts receivable) to cover obligations.

You don't purchase long term assets with a working capital loan.
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Bingo, what he said!
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