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02-06-2015 | 09:56 PM
#6111
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From: CRJ FO
I've heard some pretty bad things about ATP but at least they use a DPE for their checkrides. At Riddle most of the checkrides are done in house with an examiner who is an employee of the school. It's in their best interest for the applicant to pass on the first attempt. Someone could fail every in house "checkride" but still have a clean record in the eyes of the FAA and in airline interviews. Not saying their students are crap but it wouldn't be overwhelming difficult for one to slip through the cracks.
02-06-2015 | 10:14 PM
#6112
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I've heard some pretty bad things about ATP but at least they use a DPE for their checkrides. At Riddle most of the checkrides are done in house with an examiner who is an employee of the school. It's in their best interest for the applicant to pass on the first attempt. Someone could fail every in house "checkride" but still have a clean record in the eyes of the FAA and in airline interviews. Not saying their students are crap but it wouldn't be overwhelming difficult for one to slip through the cracks.
Total Crap.
I don't know much about Riddle, but know that the DPE's ATP uses are hand picked (at busy locations these guys are getting $1000-1200 A DAY, cash) and are deathly afraid of ****ing off management. So they Santa claus all the ATP students and go bust the FBO guys to keep the FSDO happy.
02-06-2015 | 10:55 PM
#6113
Living the Dream
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I've seen good and bad students/instructors/pilots at each kind of flight school, whether it was a 141 collegiate program, ATP, or a mom and pop FBO. That said, the mom and pop FBO's (especially in rural areas) probably had some of the least experienced aviators.
I think it mostly has to do with your personal aptitude, your personal motivation, and the quality of your instructor(s).
I think it mostly has to do with your personal aptitude, your personal motivation, and the quality of your instructor(s).
02-07-2015 | 08:01 AM
#6114
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Are you a better pilot because your parents/grandparents bought you a degree from ERAU? I'd rather sit next to a guy who has built up his flight time in real world flying in many different airplanes and in different conditions.
Are there good pilots from a 4 year degree program? Yes, I'm sure there are. But, what I've seen are lazy SJS wanna be's still living off their parents while pursuing their life long dream at 21 years old R-ATP morons that can't fly a cross wind landing. Book smart but still a dumba$$.
Are there good pilots from a 4 year degree program? Yes, I'm sure there are. But, what I've seen are lazy SJS wanna be's still living off their parents while pursuing their life long dream at 21 years old R-ATP morons that can't fly a cross wind landing. Book smart but still a dumba$$.
02-07-2015 | 08:28 AM
#6115
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From: men without hats
I'm hearing no more 175s after the initial 30 due to scope.
02-07-2015 | 08:35 AM
#6116
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Is Mesa still paying $22/hour first year pay along with a 12-month training contract and $1.30 per diem?
02-07-2015 | 09:53 AM
#6118
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Total Crap.
I don't know much about Riddle, but know that the DPE's ATP uses are hand picked (at busy locations these guys are getting $1000-1200 A DAY, cash) and are deathly afraid of ****ing off management. So they Santa claus all the ATP students and go bust the FBO guys to keep the FSDO happy.
I don't know much about Riddle, but know that the DPE's ATP uses are hand picked (at busy locations these guys are getting $1000-1200 A DAY, cash) and are deathly afraid of ****ing off management. So they Santa claus all the ATP students and go bust the FBO guys to keep the FSDO happy.
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