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Old 05-01-2015 | 05:24 PM
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Sooo the announcement is expected very soon? Would we be able to staff another 30 EJETS?
Old 05-01-2015 | 05:36 PM
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I guess we will find out after the announcement, if it ever comes :-)
Old 05-01-2015 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BrewCity
In order to add more E175s than they have already announced, United would have to:

A) Add a small narrowbody at mainline (E190 or Cseries), or
B) Get rid of some 70 seat aircraft
Which is precisely why I don't expect these to end up at Mesa... they can park some of OO's oldest 700s, and then replace them with the 175. They already have ORD E-jet base, and can add a DEN one pretty easily.
Old 05-01-2015 | 05:40 PM
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SKW just announced a DEN 175 base starting in Sept. Also, United has 35 options for the 175. SKW has their own order.
Old 05-01-2015 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by air101
Which is precisely why I don't expect these to end up at Mesa... they can park some of OO's oldest 700s, and then replace them with the 175. They already have ORD E-jet base, and can add a DEN one pretty easily.
One thing I've learned over my short airline career is that mainline won't necessarily do what makes the most sense.
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Originally Posted by Xdashdriver
I guess we will find out after the announcement, if it ever comes :-)
Are you that "Captain Obvious" guy from the Hotels.com commercial?
Old 05-01-2015 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Duct Mon
Are you that "Captain Obvious" guy from the Hotels.com commercial?
I think that was his nice way of telling the Skywest "Mesa isn't getting those" guy to politely pound sand or as he said, "Only time will tell.."
Old 05-01-2015 | 08:07 PM
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Not sure why everyone thinks Skyworse is in a better position then Mesa to get more flying. Sure they have aircraft to trade, but their ontime performance isn't what ours is.
Old 05-02-2015 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Lavdumper
Sooo the announcement is expected very soon? Would we be able to staff another 30 EJETS?
Yes. Because it would be a self-fulfilling prophecy type situation--the regional with the highest percentage of new airplanes in the pipeline is going to attract the highest percentage of new hires from the factory schools--as insane as these neurotically-texting millenials seem, they seem to be saavy enough to pick the regional with the fastest upgrade times.

Terrible management teams/prospects at places like Republic and Endeavor are still managing to get a handful of newbies shoved into the toilet at JFK/LGA/etc., but overall it seems like the bulk of AllATPs/factory-school grads are coming here for the quick upgrade on good equipment.

Anyone who picks a regional based on contract or pay in the current environment--with the current level of movement in the regional ranks--is an idiot, plain and simple. It's most rational (in this hiring/growth environment) to choose movement over pay. That fact of life has been borne out in the hiring stats at Mesa vs. other higher-paying regionals.

Now, if we hit a recession or stagnation in hiring at the legacies, yeah--maybe that will change--but right now the smart money is on the places with the fastest upgrades, and if get another 30 airplanes I'm pretty confident lateral transfers and newbie CFIs will cover the staffing needs short-term.

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Old 05-02-2015 | 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed

Anyone who picks a regional based on contract or pay in the current environment--with the current level of movement in the regional ranks--is an idiot, plain and simple. It's most rational (in this hiring/growth environment) to choose movement over pay.
This could be the single dumbest thing I've ever read on here. You are the poster child for everything that is wrong in this industry. The reason those ATP grads are choosing Mesa is 1) most of them are pretty dumb in the first place and 2) clowns like you are saying how awesome it is to work for JOs Sweatshop. All that aside, your "proof" that movement is better than pay is completely wrong. FOs are being hired in large numbers from places like XJT and ENY. Plus, any civilian only pilot hired after spring 2013 when most of thr big regionals started having hiring problems has yet to get an invite to work at a big 3.
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