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05-08-2015 | 05:35 PM
#8131
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We all know if the Capt's downgrade, it will most likely be to get on the 175! But only time will tell...
05-08-2015 | 05:54 PM
#8132
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From: First Officer
Anyone have an idea of how many captains are considering the downgrade?
05-08-2015 | 06:35 PM
#8133
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They updated the standing bid list at the same time they announced the displacement, so it probably doesn't accurately reflect the way everyone will bid. If the displacement had been run at that time, then about 4 PHX Captains would have downgraded. One hadn't update his standing bid since 09 though, so he may choose to update it before the displacement is run. It looks like the majority of "at-risk" Captains would go to DFW if the most recent update accurately reflects their wishes. I didn't even start to look at voluntaries. I only looked at the bottom 30 Captains on the PHX seniority list. I doubt there's any senior Captains in PHX that would take a voluntary displacement.
05-08-2015 | 09:15 PM
#8134
Living the Dream
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There are various reasons why they do this from time to time.
The amount of block hours is not always constant throughout the month, and other things like historical absences, changes in route structure, etc. can shift what they do with that number.
Personally, I think it is totally insane how autocratic and unscientific buffer-setting is--it would make much, much more sense to algorithmically determine those buffers based on historical absences and reserve utilization relative to block.
It would be very easy to develop a formula that takes into account all of the variables affecting reserve utilization, and spits out a weighted number for every day of the month, but try telling that to anyone in Crew Line and VV will just say "no...bye."
Additionally, I find it insane how they determine swaps based on this "difference of 2 or greater" concept...if there are 9 reserves on one day, and 10 reserves on another day, who the eff cares if I swap out of the day with 10 to the day with 9? They're going to have 9 on one day and 10 on another day--why do they care which day has 9 and which day has 10 (assuming equal buffers)? It's a wash on their end!!! But nooooooo VV's rules say I can only swap from a day with 10 net reserves to a day with 8 or less net reserves, because they will only approve swaps if it the difference is 2 or greater. That policy has always made me think they can't do basic math.
The amount of block hours is not always constant throughout the month, and other things like historical absences, changes in route structure, etc. can shift what they do with that number.
Personally, I think it is totally insane how autocratic and unscientific buffer-setting is--it would make much, much more sense to algorithmically determine those buffers based on historical absences and reserve utilization relative to block.
It would be very easy to develop a formula that takes into account all of the variables affecting reserve utilization, and spits out a weighted number for every day of the month, but try telling that to anyone in Crew Line and VV will just say "no...bye."
Additionally, I find it insane how they determine swaps based on this "difference of 2 or greater" concept...if there are 9 reserves on one day, and 10 reserves on another day, who the eff cares if I swap out of the day with 10 to the day with 9? They're going to have 9 on one day and 10 on another day--why do they care which day has 9 and which day has 10 (assuming equal buffers)? It's a wash on their end!!! But nooooooo VV's rules say I can only swap from a day with 10 net reserves to a day with 8 or less net reserves, because they will only approve swaps if it the difference is 2 or greater. That policy has always made me think they can't do basic math.
As somebody stated, a while. I have a friend who was just a few numbers shy of holding it a few months ago; he was nearly in and now he probably won't be able to hold it for months. It would be hard to hazard a specific guess though.
05-08-2015 | 09:49 PM
#8135
New Hire
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From: Line Holder
In reference to the new captain and pretty new FO in PHX, the story is they were waiting for the gate crew, and in an attempt to reposition, they struck the winglet of a 757 with the left horizontal stab leading edge.
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05-08-2015 | 10:43 PM
#8136
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From: Ball Turret Gunner
who's 757? Ouch
05-09-2015 | 08:58 PM
#8137
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In reference to the new captain and pretty new FO in PHX, the story is they were waiting for the gate crew, and in an attempt to reposition, they struck the winglet of a 757 with the left horizontal stab leading edge.
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I figured the first "rookie" mishap would be this winter, when these newbie Captains with right at 1,000 hours 121 SIC have to bring an EJet to a stop on a slippery runway/taxiway in DCA or wherever--never fathomed it would be a taxiing mishap, in PHX, in daytime VMC
05-09-2015 | 08:59 PM
#8138
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No not necessarily. There are a handful of PHX & West Coast guys who just do this job for kicks while their wives make the big bucks, for whom the downgrade might be favorable, QOL-wise, to a commute to IAH/DFW.
05-10-2015 | 06:51 AM
#8139
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From: doggy style
In reference to the new captain and pretty new FO in PHX, the story is they were waiting for the gate crew, and in an attempt to reposition, they struck the winglet of a 757 with the left horizontal stab leading edge.
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05-10-2015 | 07:09 AM
#8140
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To be honest I didn't get it either. I'm surprised no one did a FOIA to the port authority or whoever to get the security tape... If their is one.
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