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#8591
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Joined APC: Nov 2014
Posts: 558
Yea same here. Agree with some of what Darant said but not all. Regional pilots wages have been dictated by the market. There were a ton of 200 hour pilots willing to do the job for poverty wages. Those days are gone. Now all the regionals are desperate for pilots, so it's about damn time to start demanding wages respective to the profession. Period. If the Mesa's of the world can't pay pilots respectively, let them fizzle away. They have no business in the airlines if that's the case. And I'm not just singling out Mesa...this goes for all regionals. Hope you guys demand the industry average at the very least. It's time start making all these regionals pay up or go away.
#8592
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Joined APC: Feb 2015
Posts: 298
Lawls... Okay can we get back on a non throat-slashing topic please? Does anyone know if the roster is correct for July? I see less than 100 FOs on the active list and we are supposed to reveice the last airplane at the end of next month. It doesn't seem the math adds up... Short staffed on FOs or delayed delivery?
#8593
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Joined APC: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,666
Short on FOs....hence the hold backs. They extended the hiring out until the fall and are taking a break on upgrades (until August) to run FO-only classes to beef things up a little.
#8594
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Joined APC: Feb 2015
Posts: 298
How many more FOs do we need approx? Hopefully they run 20-30 more upgrades on the 175 later in summer.
#8595
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Joined APC: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,602
LOL we said we'll hold out for industry average and we're the devil that's comdeming American unions. **** off.
#8596
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Joined APC: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,666
I think there around 130 on the property including the June class. I figure we need around 150, but there are several FOs that have been awarded CA and have been held back. As both EJET and CRJ upgrades continue, that number will only go up, requiring backfill at some point. So my guess would be a minimum of 20 if they keep the hold backs, 30+ if they start releasing them any time in the next 3 months.
#8597
sippin' dat koolaid
Joined APC: Jun 2013
Position: gear slinger
Posts: 982
This is precisely the reason current public opinion in America is anti-union. The purpose of our union is not to get you everything you desire or to hold the company and your fellow employees hostage until you get what you want. There is a happy medium that both parties can agree to that wont sink Mesa which would ultimately cost you your job and create a better working contract with some increase in pay.
I'm not anti-union and I don't want the company to fail, but at the same time this is a free market economy. If we price ourselves out of existence by voting in industry average pay rates, then that speaks volumes of the business model here at MAG. And IMO if that puts the company under then they shouldn't be doing business. This is basic economics at work.
There's nothing unprofessional about demanding a respectable wage with the current labor and economical situations. In fact that would be the professional thing to do if you value skill and competency.
#8598
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Posts: 236
It's easy to say to not accept the pay. It's entirely a different matter when your there already and established. Only a fool would cause the demise of his current job without another job lined up.
With that said, a lateral move to Envoy is starting to look like a really good idea. That guaranteed flow is the only way that many of us will get to a legacy. Also, health insurance for my entire family at a tiny fraction of the cost of what Mesa charges is a game changer for those with families. If you want change, well...
With that said, a lateral move to Envoy is starting to look like a really good idea. That guaranteed flow is the only way that many of us will get to a legacy. Also, health insurance for my entire family at a tiny fraction of the cost of what Mesa charges is a game changer for those with families. If you want change, well...
#8599
Covfefe
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 3,001
It's easy to say to not accept the pay. It's entirely a different matter when your there already and established. Only a fool would cause the demise of his current job without another job lined up.
With that said, a lateral move to Envoy is starting to look like a really good idea. That guaranteed flow is the only way that many of us will get to a legacy. Also, health insurance for my entire family at a tiny fraction of the cost of what Mesa charges is a game changer for those with families. If you want change, well...
With that said, a lateral move to Envoy is starting to look like a really good idea. That guaranteed flow is the only way that many of us will get to a legacy. Also, health insurance for my entire family at a tiny fraction of the cost of what Mesa charges is a game changer for those with families. If you want change, well...
#8600
I can no longer take you seriously. Why would anyone want to jump ship to an operation that is SHRINKING. All for a "guaranteed flow" of at least a 20 year wait. And that's if the company is still even around at that point.
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