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Old 06-17-2015 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed
Who are all you guys regularly posting on the Mesa forum when you don't even work here? I mean, I get it when legacy guys with lots of time off and lots of extra money in the bank come in here and pontificate on things, b/c I'll prob do that too once I'm at a legacy and bored--but it's kind of sad and pathetic when regional pilots expend time and energy bashing on each other. Because basically, it's like homeless guys under an overpass in LA arguing about who is using the highest quality cardboard as a mattress, and about who has the best patch of concrete to sleep upon.

I don't care what is happening at XJet/ASA/Skywest/Envoy, etc.. I really don't. I don't regularly troll around in their threads on here. What makes their pilots troll around in here? I don't get it. I've been through mergers and bankruptcies in my decade as a 121 pilot, and I've never once been so unfulfilled, unconfident, and insecure in my life outside of work to even care about what is happening at any carrier other than the one that signs my checks and the codeshare overlord that signs theirs. Get a life, ya'll...seriously.
I couldn't agree more. Unfortunately it will not stop them from posting. When they do post we should ignore them and move on.

FYI... PHX will have about 60 lines for July on the FO side
Old 06-17-2015 | 09:17 AM
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Any news on contract negotiations with you guys? Has the union completely given up? You are in mediated negotiations right? What do you guys talk about at the table if nothing ever gets accomplished?
Old 06-17-2015 | 09:21 AM
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Latest news (probably about a month old) is that they are getting closer to a TA. Management and the union have been meeting regularly over the last several months. We are not in mediated negotiations. There is a ALPA conference call next week that may shed some light on the most up to date info.
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Originally Posted by Xdashdriver
Latest news (probably about a month old) is that they are getting closer to a TA. Management and the union have been meeting regularly over the last several months. We are not in mediated negotiations. There is a ALPA conference call next week that may shed some light on the most up to date info.
Those conference calls are going to be the same as they always are, worthless! Speaking of conference calls, is anyone going to attend that company one today?
Old 06-17-2015 | 10:11 AM
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I plan on listening in. Starts in just under an hour.
Old 06-17-2015 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RgrMurdock
Any news on contract negotiations with you guys? Has the union completely given up? You are in mediated negotiations right? What do you guys talk about at the table if nothing ever gets accomplished?
Originally Posted by Xdashdriver
Latest news (probably about a month old) is that they are getting closer to a TA. Management and the union have been meeting regularly over the last several months. We are not in mediated negotiations. There is a ALPA conference call next week that may shed some light on the most up to date info.
Main points are agreed upon, working on language. We're hoping for something by the end of the year.
Old 06-17-2015 | 12:47 PM
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Well, the negotiations are centered on money right now. Problem is, there isn't much money at Mesa. Hard to get what isn't there. But, they'll try for as much as they can get. Hope to have something to show to the MEC by September.
Old 06-17-2015 | 01:51 PM
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EJET upgrade classes are now planned for August and maybe September.
Old 06-17-2015 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Navmode
Main points are agreed upon, working on language. We're hoping for something by the end of the year.
Some of the top guys in the union played down word of a new TA when I asked them about it. "Main points agreed upon" means "the easy, non-contentious stuff is agreed upon."

Anyone who has been through a long, drawn-out contract negotiation knows that--until sections on compensation and scheduling are closed and cleaned--you're not really "close to a TA" at all.

From my sources, the company isn't budging on scheduling--stuff like how they set buffers and criteria for swaps/drops/line enhancement. Until that section is closed, I'll be surprised if it's finished in my lifetime (sans some sort of pressure from our codeshare overlords).
Old 06-17-2015 | 03:55 PM
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How are you guys not in mediated negotiations? I thought you've been in talks for forever now. Maybe I'm wrong.
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