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Old 06-25-2015 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by NovemberBravo
And where did all these long layovers come from I rather go back to work than sit around Cleveland, CLT or Buffalo all day
Yeah, it's feast or famine with these damn schedules. F bombed (fatigue) it twice last month. Late nights followed with a flip (10 hour) overnight, morning show on the last day. I could not go to sleep, with 8+ hours of flying scheduled. This month, sit your ass out of town on the last day til 7:00PM, then fly one leg back. I'm doing one right now. Should have gone out and had a few too many. Been up since 6:00AM, worked out, went to lunch. Now I'm bored off my ass watching the clock tick until I can fly home. Not that I will get there. My commute flight leaves before my damn arrival.
Old 06-25-2015 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Xdashdriver
I'm not qualified to be a captain, but I want to be one anyways, can you guys negotiate that for me?
We actually can't negotiate anything. We actually dont do anything.
Old 06-25-2015 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by payingdues
I just stabbed a guy. Can ALPA help me?
LMFAO hahahaha
Old 06-25-2015 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by NovemberBravo
LMFAO hahahaha
Flicka da wrist boy
Old 06-25-2015 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by skillett
Yeah, it's feast or famine with these damn schedules. F bombed (fatigue) it twice last month. Late nights followed with a flip (10 hour) overnight, morning show on the last day. I could not go to sleep, with 8+ hours of flying scheduled. This month, sit your ass out of town on the last day til 7:00PM, then fly one leg back. I'm doing one right now. Should have gone out and had a few too many. Been up since 6:00AM, worked out, went to lunch. Now I'm bored off my ass watching the clock tick until I can fly home. Not that I will get there. My commute flight leaves before my damn arrival.
I think he said the scheduling section of the new TA will be bigger than the entire current contract. I really hope they've addressed these inefficient lines. What's the point when you fly 2 hours one day and another day sit til 7 p.m. to do one leg home? Surely Mesa could schedule more efficiently, and I hope there's incentive for them to do so in the new TA.
Old 06-25-2015 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
I think he said the scheduling section of the new TA will be bigger than the entire current contract. I really hope they've addressed these inefficient lines. What's the point when you fly 2 hours one day and another day sit til 7 p.m. to do one leg home? Surely Mesa could schedule more efficiently, and I hope there's incentive for them to do so in the new TA.
I have been here 10 years. This has gone on forever. For about 8 months in 2010, great schedules. Last year on the E-Jet, great schedules. The rest of the time, it's been fair to just plain crap. I hope the new TA can fix this. One good thing to come out of this. I have been busting my ass getting my logbooks together and up to date. I was a little too comfortable last year.
Old 06-25-2015 | 02:09 PM
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I hate when we hear union leadership talk about " back in my day". We all know pay rates and work rules were worse when these guys were FO's. That didn't make it right then, and it is not an excuse to accept it now. Sometimes we are our own worse enemy when we start to take an attitude of well I had to pay my dues so now you have to suffer the same. If you suffered through the same kind of financial strains all the more reason they should be sympathetic to those who are new to the industry. It is also a different world for pilots. Not everyone needed to have an ATP, not everyone had the experience they have now, and not everyone paid 100K+ to try to get a shot at this career. There also was not a huge demand for regional pilots that we have today.
Old 06-25-2015 | 02:16 PM
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Man almost jumped in when I heard that back in my day crap from that guy. Talking about what he made back in the day. Yeah let's not talk about inflation that's happened since then. What was gas back then a buck? Groceries were what a third of what they are now? And let's not get started on rent.
Old 06-25-2015 | 02:42 PM
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It basically sounds like they are getting everyone prepared to be presented with a below industry standard contract, and to make the case that this is as good as it gets. Take it and get some minor pay increases and modest QOL increases; or leave it and stay at the status quo for another six years. NLRB will never authorize a strike, and the company doesn't have any ability to go back and re-negociate their contract rates on the awarded flying they have. If the margins are truly as thin as they say there is really nothing more that can be done. Either the company closes down, accepts unsustainable labor costs and they goes BK again. I don't see them getting any of our Major parterres to pay more for our product. Especially when they have wholly-owneds that they can shrink and grow easily. If American made an announcement of a huge shift in flying back to Envoy they would have no problem filling classes either. Same will happen if United awards those other E-175 to another regional. Guys will leave in droves to chase the quick upgrade, especially if it comes with better pay, qol and flow or interview potential.
Old 06-25-2015 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by payingdues
Flicka da wrist boy
F ck up some commas
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