Mesa Hiring
04-09-2014, 08:43 PM
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04-09-2014, 08:46 PM
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I commuted it for a year this last year. Easy commute, 7 Airbus 321's a day and 5 American MD80's or Airbuses. Only had to ride in the jumpseat maybe 4 times. If your personable found myself in first class often. It has gotten a little more crowded with merger non revs going back and forth. Those folks are usually traveling on Monday morning and Thursday afternoon. But without a doubt one of the easiest commutes that I know of.
04-09-2014, 09:06 PM
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From what I've heard IAH-DFW, IAH-PHX, IAH-AUS are very tough commutes. Driving to IAH-DFW might be a better choice, (4 hours), depending on how fast you drive and what part of DFW you live in. I will post something on the commute around the end of May. Heard IAH-CLT is not as bad but is not great either.
04-09-2014, 10:10 PM
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By the way, if anymore butthurt folks have issues, this flying is just getting us back to the flying that we had lost in 2009. We, yes Mesa was underbid by other top tier regionals to cover the leases on their aircraft that had no contract at a LOSS. Putting us into bankruptcy and losing 1300 pilots. Now I don't want to take any flying from industry leading regional carriers, (and as of right now we havn't) we deserve what we're getting now. And we will be tough in these contract negotions to raise the pay and QOL, but don't expect an industry leading contract. I want the flying we have earned lately, but I don't want yours.
You keep reiterating the "underbidding at a LOSS" mantra, just wondering if you ever managed to find any proof?
04-09-2014, 10:50 PM
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Well sat with one of the folks in the negotiations committee last night, looked over digital graphs of all regional pay, medical, trip/duty rigs and min days off. Mesa is pretty much running at the bottom on pretty much all graphs. Of course Great Lakes looks like the bottom of the ocean but those are small turboprops. Now with these graphs we are going to have a strong case for a at least above average contract. Now "industry leading", it is such a jump that it would cripple this company, the gap is just to far. Now do we win contracts for "cheap labor"? I know it helps for competitive bidding but we have had the best on-time/cancellation scores for the last 4 years. Plus the fuel savings program that all regionals in the United/Airways system are using was created by one of our pilots. Now you have to remember we lost a lot of flying back in 09 because we were under-bid for a loss, we are just getting back what we lost. And United saw something in Mesa because we were not the lowest bid. Now I'm not a cheerleader for Mesa, I have been the most critical on APC. But, I have seen some good things going on here. Do I still have, damn this place, what dip**** thought of that, yes. But I think upper management is listening and learning albeit slowly sometimes. Now with our negotiations, we are going to go after what is deserved, and I think the pilot pool will have a lot of say on what can be negotiated. But "industry leading" is a little far fetched right now and will just add years of negotiations.
How did you come about knowing that "Mesa wasn't the lowest bid"? Where can one find any legitimate proof of this, also pretty sure you're incorrect about the "fuel savings program all regionals in the UAL/US system use"...
04-10-2014, 04:48 AM
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Well sat with one of the folks in the negotiations committee last night, looked over digital graphs of all regional pay, medical, trip/duty rigs and min days off. Mesa is pretty much running at the bottom on pretty much all graphs. Of course Great Lakes looks like the bottom of the ocean but those are small turboprops. Now with these graphs we are going to have a strong case for a at least above average contract. Now "industry leading", it is such a jump that it would cripple this company, the gap is just to far. Now do we win contracts for "cheap labor"? I know it helps for competitive bidding but we have had the best on-time/cancellation scores for the last 4 years. Plus the fuel savings program that all regionals in the United/Airways system are using was created by one of our pilots. Now you have to remember we lost a lot of flying back in 09 because we were under-bid for a loss, we are just getting back what we lost. And United saw something in Mesa because we were not the lowest bid. Now I'm not a cheerleader for Mesa, I have been the most critical on APC. But, I have seen some good things going on here. Do I still have, damn this place, what dip**** thought of that, yes. But I think upper management is listening and learning albeit slowly sometimes. Now with our negotiations, we are going to go after what is deserved, and I think the pilot pool will have a lot of say on what can be negotiated. But "industry leading" is a little far fetched right now and will just add years of negotiations.
Can't say I think there's going to be a new contract for a long time. Mesa is having no trouble filling its classes, which doesn't give the company much incentive to change.
04-10-2014, 08:14 AM
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