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Originally Posted by prior121 (Post 1643806)

All this Mesa bashing baffles me. Actually, it quite honestly makes me sick.

I am treated like a human being here which I was not at RAH.

I make more money here than RAH.

We have GREAT people in the training dept. We have two GREAT Chief Pilots.

I have only been here a year and I hold an 85 hour, 15 day off line.

I am looking at a fall upgrade.

So first year pay is two dollars less than you Skywest folks?

The difference is, if you get in now at Mesa, you will never see 3rd year FO pay, heck you may never see 2nd year FO pay.

Good grief.

It's great to hear MESA has improved its working conditions, but you've been around long enough to know the history of that place and the statements and actions of Ornstein. He openly despises pilots--that means you. They also made it their goal to be the bottom of the bottom feeders.

You know that we don't operate in a vacuum. When the majors play this musical chairs game with whipsaw we ALL suffer. You are being treated well NOW, because it serves their purpose and they are a renewed airline with low labor costs. Maybe you hit it right, get in, GTFO, don't care about who you fly for. Or maybe MESA will just keep growing as those mainline jobs disappear to be transformed into poorly paid regional jobs.

Meanwhile a great group of guys who have spent most of their careers at Eagle (many due to furlough from AA) are about to be hosed because they refused to set the bar any lower. This also goes for all the other regional pilots who said No Mas!.

I'm being told that Mesa's 175s are sitting in PHX right now, and parked in a way that would make you believe they are being stored. Shouldn't they be out doing proving runs? Training? 30 days to go, JO. Tick...tick...tick

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Originally Posted by NVUS (Post 1643827)

Let's be real here... United's 175's that they are so graciously allowing Mesa to operate.

And let's not forget JO's most recent comments (yesterday) blaming greedy unions and captains for such low pay.

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Originally Posted by NVUS (Post 1643827)

Proving runs are done. The initial cadre is trained already, so why take the airplanes out for no reason?

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Originally Posted by Navmode (Post 1643836)

Proving runs are done, if you have the initial cadre trained already, why would you take the airplanes out for no reason?

Training flights.... but we all know JO is too cheap for that.

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Originally Posted by bedrock (Post 1643820)

Who came up with this term "whipsaw" anyway? The Flextrek Whipsnake - YouTube <-this is all I think of when people say that.

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Originally Posted by air101 (Post 1643838)

Training flights.... but we all know JO is too cheap for that.

Not the I'm a company cheerleader, but that's pointless and wasteful. Do we take out 900s for no reason when they're not being used to consolidate new FO's quicker, or do some approaches for fun? No one does that.

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Originally Posted by Navmode (Post 1643836)

Proving runs are done. The initial cadre is trained already, so why take the airplanes out for no reason?

SkyWest flew their's all over the place, proving run after proving run. Training flight after training flight. I guess one airline does it right, and another airlines does it as cheaply as possible.

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Originally Posted by Navmode (Post 1643848)

Actually SkyWest did... they want to get their pilots some hours in the airplane. You don't just start flying revenue service without having flown the airplane.... that just seems reckless.

Remember, not only are we talking about the airline that hired a roid pumping reckless retard as a pilot. This is a company that allows him to hire pilots decreased libido and all. Conventional wisdom does not apply.