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Old 07-31-2015 | 06:41 PM
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Somehow, I'm not shocked. Hmm. Crazy huh?
Old 07-31-2015 | 07:00 PM
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So the company gives us money in lieu of a service we don't use, and now we get ****ed about it. Like when I overnight where my dad lives, and I stay with him instead of the crappy hotel, and pocket an extra $25, I should be ****ed? I don't understand that logic. Previously the company gave us nothing, now we get something.

If this new thing results in people sleeping in airports, couch surfing, etc., that's on the gross individuals, not the company (don't think it will). I wouldn't double up to save $25 either. My privacy is worth that.

Usually we complain when a company takes something away or implements a crappy non-optional policy. This is optional and can give us cash. I don't understand the complaints.
Old 07-31-2015 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
So the company gives us money in lieu of a service we don't use, and now we get ****ed about it. Like when I overnight where my dad lives, and I stay with him instead of the crappy hotel, and pocket an extra $25, I should be ****ed? I don't understand that logic. Previously the company gave us nothing, now we get something.

If this new thing results in people sleeping in airports, couch surfing, etc., that's on the gross individuals, not the company (don't think it will). I wouldn't double up to save $25 either. My privacy is worth that.

Usually we complain when a company takes something away or implements a crappy non-optional policy. This is optional and can give us cash. I don't understand the complaints.
I'm right there with you. Nobody is forcing anybody to do anything here, and if people want to sleep with strangers or in the airport terminal then that is on them and they can suffer through it per their own choosing. But if I overnight where I live you can bet your ass I won't be using my room, and if the company wants to save a few bucks PER MY CHOICE then I don't see a huge problem.

I don't think it should be encouraged by the company but it's not a bad deal for those who already don't occupy a room on certain overnights.
Old 07-31-2015 | 07:12 PM
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Somebody explain to me why we're p-ssed off again? Because the company is offering financial incentives to reallocate an otherwise unused resource?

Rabble rabble! Where's my pitchfork?!
Old 07-31-2015 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
So the company gives us money in lieu of a service we don't use, and now we get ****ed about it. Like when I overnight where my dad lives, and I stay with him instead of the crappy hotel, and pocket an extra $25, I should be ****ed? I don't understand that logic. Previously the company gave us nothing, now we get something.

If this new thing results in people sleeping in airports, couch surfing, etc., that's on the gross individuals, not the company (don't think it will). I wouldn't double up to save $25 either. My privacy is worth that.

Usually we complain when a company takes something away or implements a crappy non-optional policy. This is optional and can give us cash. I don't understand the complaints.

I think the complaints are more geared towards that now the company has an excuse for not updating some of the hotel choices. In which most (not all) are horrendous. I kind of think of it as a band-aid rather than fixing one of the problems which is ****ty hotels. Some of which make us pay for a cab if it's late enough and the hotel shuttle isn't running.
Old 07-31-2015 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottyDo
I think the complaints are more geared towards that now the company has an excuse for not updating some of the hotel choices. In which most (not all) are horrendous. I kind of think of it as a band-aid rather than fixing one of the problems which is ****ty hotels. Some of which make us pay for a cab if it's late enough and the hotel shuttle isn't running.
You are 100% never to pay for a cab. Don't even pay for a cab and fill out an expense report expecting to be paid back. Transportation to/from the hotel is the company/hotel's responsibility. If they don't fix it, then call in fatigued. If tracking has a problem with that, then remind the supervisor that a delay fine is a whole lot more than proactively paying for a taxi...that'll ensure it never happens again.

A contract is worth less than nothing if you don't make them abide by it.
Old 07-31-2015 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
That's not the point. The fact that they are offering money to not use hotels is embarrassing. Especially since it is worth more than an hour of flight pay for new FOs
Embarrassment is working for a company that can force a DH to take the JS from a commuting pilot out of certain domiciles. That's embarrassing.
Old 07-31-2015 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottyDo
I think the complaints are more geared towards that now the company has an excuse for not updating some of the hotel choices. In which most (not all) are horrendous. I kind of think of it as a band-aid rather than fixing one of the problems which is ****ty hotels. Some of which make us pay for a cab if it's late enough and the hotel shuttle isn't running.
This is 100% not related to fixing the hotel issues. Completely separate issues. How many hotel complaints have you filled out? I've filled out a few when I've felt the need. Our hotels aren't great. Some are awesome, some are average, and some suck. That's the case with a lot of airlines. Work for a budget regional and get budget hotels.

Completely irrelevant to getting paid to not use a provided room. And what are people going to buy with that $25? Not another room, that's for sure. So I don't see how this is putting a band-aid on anything. We can save money if we have friends or family with a room for us, company saves money and helps the bottom line, it's kind of a win win.

Using someone commuting to PHX from ABQ/TUS/ELP as an example, this $25 a night overnighting at their home can offset costs if they need to get a hotel or crash pad in PHX.

Keep filling out complaints against our bad hotels, and if the quality of the hotel disrupts your sleep, refuse the hotel or call in fatigued.

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Old 07-31-2015 | 08:13 PM
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Do other airlines do this? I'm assuming no, because its stupid and cheap. Do other crews stay at most of the same hotels as we do? No because they are ****ty. When did Mesa get so many fan boys?
Old 07-31-2015 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by tinman1
Embarrassment is working for a company that can force a DH to take the JS from a commuting pilot out of certain domiciles. That's embarrassing.
Haha. More embarrassing than encouraging your pilots to not stay in the hotels and then only paying 1/4 of the savings back to you?
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