flapshalfspeed

It has to be approved by the MEC before it is considered an official TA. Also, unions typically like to release these things in a controlled fashion--i.e. with an executive summary, explanations, highlights, etc..

Contracts are complicated and comprehensive--if you just dump the raw text on the pilot group in an uncontrolled fashion, you run the risk of baseless speculation and misinterpretations, and exagerrations/underestimates of gains, meanings, and who gives what up in return for what, etc., etc..

ScottyDo

haha thanks bro

Kprc1

Have they ever?

BrewCity

Those look to be raw completion factors, which is not a metric on which regionals are judged by their mainline carriers.

ScottyDo

This is probably a stupid question, but what is the difference between those two?

CBreezy

Many major carriers prioritize who goes and who doesn't. If your airline flies out of LGA primarily, your raw completion factor could be very low but your adjusted (no fault ) could be a lot higher.

ScottyDo

Ahh okay that makes more sense, thanks man.

CWHCFI

I see random posts by people saying they are going to vote no. Also, I hear pilots in base saying the same thing. What gets me is that we do not know what is in this contract and people are saying no to something they know nothing about. This is like Nancy Peloci saying that congress had to vote on the health care bill so that we could find out what is in it, but in reverse. Now we have pilots saying we have to vote no on this contract and I do not care what is in it.

I will admit, I have been with Mesa for just over two years. This will be my first contract vote. I have never worked somewhere that had a union before. I hear good and bad about Mesa from many people. But here is what I have discovered in my short tenure at this company. The crews are great to work with (except for a couple of people who will remain nameless.) I enjoy coming to work each day because I know I am going to have a good time.

The company has been there for me in an extremely difficult time in my life. In January of 2015 my daughter died of cancer. I was off work for two months while I sat by her side in Houston for the last weeks of her life and then for the funeral and grieving.

During this time members of management went out of their way to help me. J.O. himself got involved to make sure my wife and I had positive space tickets from LAS to OMA for the funeral. I could not have asked for anything more from any company during such a tragic time in my life.

I only know of a couple of details that are in this new contract. I have not made a decision one way or the other. Why? Because I do not know what is in it. I say we need to find out what is in the contract before we make up our minds on how to vote.

deltajuliet

I'm so sorry to hear about your daughter. It's nice to hear about the company doing right by an employee, I'm just sorry it was under those circumstances. Like you I've heard numerous Captains (usually senior guys) saying they'll vote no just on principle. That even if it's good, we could do better. Or they just want to stick it to the man. I haven't been through the tough times but I can empathize with their viewpoint; still, you're right, it's premature to make sweeping conclusions about which way to vote when nobody's even seen it. Nonetheless I'm sure most of us have a notion of how good it needs to be for us on an individual level to approve of it. We'll see if it matches expectations.

prior121

I guess y'all are just planning for a
lifelong career at Mesa huh?