I have not heard anyone say they are voting yes without knowing the contents of the contract. However, there are plenty of people saying no that have not seen it.

 

My point exactly. How can anyone say they are voting no without knowing the details of the contract? The same goes for voting yes.

 

Does it look like the newer guys outnumber the lifers? I think that will have an impact on the vote as well.

 

Have you not been on this forum in the last 2 weeks? The last two pages of this thread is the first time I've heard any Mesa pilot say the words no and contract in the same sentence.

 

Lived in Woodlands/Spring area for almost 6 years and have had a blast. There's plenty to do unless block parties, crawfish boils, etc are not your thing. Montgomery county schools are some of the best in the nation. No state income tax, no personal property tax, and I play golf 12 months a year. I drive 25 minutes to the parking lot (we all share the same lot) so low stress.

Don't base your judgement by what you see around IAH. It's hot as balls here but that is what air-conditioning, pools, and cold beer are for.

 

Way too humid in Houston for me man, and I'm a Dallas guy born and raised haha. Is IAH pretty junior at UAL?

 

Yeah, the humidity is rough, but again there's always a/c, a pool, and cold beer. Tubing out on Conroe helps as well. Last I checked, Dallas was no fun in the summer months either.

IAH is junior on some fleets and senior on others. Right now, if you want to get IAH as a new-hire avoid the 737 (senior) and go for the 320 (junior).

 

The senior guys I've spoken with who are no voters know enough to know the contract isn't what they are willing to vote in. They aren't automatic no voters with no idea what's in it as is described here. The main reasons they are voting no are no duty rig and an almost negligible captain pay raise. We don't need to wait until it is officially distributed to know those two facts. No matter what else could be in there isn't enough to get (most) of the captains I've talked to about it to vote yes.

I personally think it's premature to make up my mind, as some of the things in the contract will benefit me and my personal situation and I don't plan on working here much longer, even if the entire industry goes into stagnation (I will leave aviation before I work at Mesa more than 3 years).

That said, a 4-5 year contract in this climate is foolish for pilots to vote in, and I'm shocked our negotiating committee agreed to that.

 

Based on what I've heard so far, I will vote NO unless we have some significant improvements in our health insurance.

 

Ironic that the captains don't like it, as they get most of the gains. Elimination of the 50 seat rate and the ejets and 900's at the large seat rate only benefit the captains. While I'm happy for that, what do the fo's get....hardly any raise. I like some of the other goodies in the TA, but not enough to vote yes. Unless there is something to make it fair to both seats.