Originally Posted by MachTwo

To all of you that are thinking of Mesa for a flying job/career, let me tune you up about what Mesa is all about; first, you think you can live on 20k/yr. You can't, unless you have a big bank account. Think you are going to upgrade in a year to two years, try 3-4 years. Mesa does not care about you. They don't care if you have family problems, they want you at station, and ready 12 hrs a day on reserve. If you choose Mesa because of domicile; try e-jet for IAH, Envoy for Dfw, Transtates for IAD, and you will never get PHX because it is super senior. All these regionals are way better in pay and benifits. Mesa has the worst pay and benifits in the industry. They pay for nothing. Some regionals pay for uniforms, not Mesa. I am sorry I came here and will be looking for another job after the new year. JO treats all of his employees like crap. Terrible hotels and crew rooms. I have never been in such a "cheep, cheep" company. Good luck to all who have hope that it will get better, it won't. JO will run this company into the ground before giving any more in pay and benifits.

Originally Posted by BobJenkins

Forgive me for sullying your rant with facts, but:

Most Junior Captain By Crew Base:
DFW: March 2015
IAD: August 2014
IAH: August 2014
PHX: July 2005

You knew what the pay was when you signed up. If it doesn't pay your bills, shame on you for not knowing that ahead of time. Use Excel, create a budget for yourself. BEFORE you need it.

No company cares about family problems. You are an employee, you are expected to show up to work when scheduled. That's been the norm for about, oh, 97 years or so.

Mesa pays for 50% of uniforms, just as Envoy does. And others. If you base your decision on which company to fly for on whether or not you have to buy a coupla shirts on your own dime, see my budget advice above.

As for "running it into the ground"... While anything is possible, the company has been around since 1979, with fewer incidents than most regionals. You should be proud to work there.

Originally Posted by Stratapilot

Funny, for a guy that doesn't seem to work here, you seem awfully preachy. Spend a day dealing with the downright abusive horse.**** the recruiters DON'T tell you about and you'd change your tune.

Originally Posted by BobJenkins

Show me a company where this ISN'T the case, and the first two rounds will be on me.
Show me where anything I said was inaccurate and I will correct it.

Originally Posted by Stratapilot

Sure thing. Take a look at the XJT contract, and the Mesa contract. I have first hand experience dealing with both. Two totally different worlds. XJT has a very solid contact that protects its pilot, Mesa's is so vague it allows the company to run roughshod over its staff.

Kronenbourg 1664 is my preferred choice of tasty adult beverage.

Which airline do you work for again?

Originally Posted by ScottyDo

Originally Posted by Bucketofpropwas

Got the same info last week from a recruiter rep $250/ week until IOE. Yes, I have it in writing. Sounds like they are trying to add in an incentive, but are not advertising it too much.

Is there a uniform for training or just for checking events? How about for sims if off campus? Are there any 175 CPTs trainers in PHX? If not do they give out posters?

Originally Posted by MachTwo

To all of you that are thinking of Mesa for a flying job/career, let me tune you up about what Mesa is all about; first, you think you can live on 20k/yr. You can't, unless you have a big bank account. Think you are going to upgrade in a year to two years, try 3-4 years. Mesa does not care about you. They don't care if you have family problems, they want you at station, and ready 12 hrs a day on reserve. If you choose Mesa because of domicile; try e-jet for IAH, Envoy for Dfw, Transtates for IAD, and you will never get PHX because it is super senior. All these regionals are way better in pay and benifits. Mesa has the worst pay and benifits in the industry. They pay for nothing. Some regionals pay for uniforms, not Mesa. I am sorry I came here and will be looking for another job after the new year. JO treats all of his employees like crap. Terrible hotels and crew rooms. I have never been in such a "cheep, cheep" company. Good luck to all who have hope that it will get better, it won't. JO will run this company into the ground before giving any more in pay and benifits.

Originally Posted by Bumbaclot

I was thinking the same thing. I love how these guys get on here trying to rant and rave and they botch it all with atrocious spelling and such. Oh and @bobjenkins, was Mesa not founded in 1982?