Yeah it's prorated so it gets reduced every month. Plus with 45 days notice it's cut another 50%. If you're our itching that bad to get out give your notice and call in sick for a month. Lol probably not the best advice but better than paying Mesa more than you have to.

 

Your best bet is to just work the year then leave. Probably better you don't leave under a year for when you apply to the non legacy airlines.

 

Eligible for rehire is simply referring to the drug testing. If you fail a drug test then they checkride no box. Has nothing to do with training contract. Just don't fail a drug test here. Training contract is not enforceable if you live outside the state of Arizona. They can and will file paperwork with the court to scare you but no court will rule in their favor. It does not effect pria. If you pay them for training you are wasting your money. Contact a aopa aviation attorney if you have aopa. They will tell you the same thing.

 

Mesa was founded when Columbus landed at Plymouth Rock and said " this is where I will create the lowest paying airline ever! F@ck pilots and flight attendents.

 

I think "eligible for rehire" can mean more than just one thing. If you are terminated for any reason, and they don't want you back, the NO box gets checked. Doesn't mean you can't get hired elsewhere by any means. Just means they don't want you back.

 

I left to pursue an opportunity with a start up company flying EMB-135's, that has since folded.

I don't know if the courts would have ruled in their favor, but I have not found anything that would suggest that the promissory note is unenforceable. I offered to make payments but initially they refused, and then filed papers. Ultimately we came to a payment arrangement that paid the whole thing off in 6 or 7 months.

 

This is hilarious.

 

I think you need to redo your homework, you have it wrong.

The upgrade time will be faster at Envoy then it will be at Mesa. You have about 550 FO's that have to upgrade at Mesa before you will. We only have about 70-80 more Captain seats coming so you will be betting on attrition at Mesa for the rest to get out of your way. No Flow means no movement. Probably looking like a 5 year plus upgrade now at Mesa if hired today. If not longer. Can you endure low pay for that long as an FO?

Envoy has movement with the flow of half the American class each month. Easy choice. I am not sure why you think they would be a longer upgrade. Outdated info?

Why do you think FO's are leaving Mesa for other regionals? It's a sign not to come here. They are not just leaving for the greater FO pay, it is because the upgrade time is probably going to be faster elsewhere. Our FO's get it. You need PIC. Unless Mesa gets a massive order of jets, or a ton of attrition in the Captain ranks, good luck enjoying the lowest FO pay in the industry for a long time.

Besides you say you don't mind the low pay and sitting ready reserve, yeah, heard that before.... You end up being the one complaining in the crew room everyday. No one is willing to sacrifice your life for low pay and ready reserve. If you are, you are a fool. If you come here, get ready for a year or more of Ready Reserve every day!

 

Man, I want some of what you are smoking!! Are you an Envoy recruiter posting on the Mesa thread? Currently, Envoy reserve time is 2 years, and upgrade is around 6 or 7 years. Coming down, sure, but... If you think an Envoy upgrade is fast... Words escape me.

Most junior CA at Mesa is August 2014. At Envoy, it's July 2007.

 

You are short sighted dude. You had a single moment where you got it when you said "Coming down, sure, but..." No kidding these are the current junior CA's hire dates. Do you not GET that that was if YOU were hired back then??? If hired now, it is TOTALLY different dynamics.

Do you understand what past verse present is? You need to stop comparing past as if it is the future...

Simple math dude. Simple math. Look at the flow at Envoy. Look at the attrition and orders remaining at Mesa. I have been in the industry way longer then you probably have. I lol when I have FO's saying they were promised a quick upgrade. Did you do the math? That is the only way you will truly know. If not you are driving into fog.

Please tell me where my math is wrong??? You only stated past history. I stated future math and upgrade potential. If you believe if you were hired today that it is the same as being hired in August 2014 at Mesa or hired at Envoy in 2007, you are smoking some good stuff. lol