SubwaySandwich

Unbelievable idiocy. Every statement you just made is false. All of the above carriers do stay in better accommodations than you do. All of them and obviously you are the one that is new to the industry. If you just look around you next time you wait on a crew van just take notice of where others go. No one said five star resorts as that would just be ludacris but then again you're pretty ludacris. The me me me and the comfort hotels discount.

250 buck a night hotel in Europe? Way to think outside the box. Were you like " Must use Comfort Hotels discount." So instead of going with 100 dollar hotel like a radisson, ibis, parc inn, premiere inn you had to go for a ridiculous 350 dollar comfort inn just to get the discount?

tinman1

In short, both of these hotels are dirty and noisy. And the internet is awful so good luck updating your Jepps and company manuals if they are expiring. Lots of outside noise from rooms facing the street traffic (good luck getting a room facing away from the noise at either hotel) and in ELP you WILL wakeup at 4am when a heavy takes off and rattles the window of your room facing the airport. Also I don't enjoy listening to the occupants of the adjacent room having sex or watching tv while I'm trying to fall asleep. I rarely ever feel well rested after staying at either hotel, and on top of that they just don't clean the GD rooms. I've woken up with spider bites on two separate occasions in ABQ. I have documentation of food and all kinds of crap on the floor around the bed and in the bathrooms at ELP.

I'm not asking to stay in the Grand Hyatt every night, but a reasonable standard with clean, comfortable accommodations so crew members can have a useful rest period and not be subject to bed bugs and other insects. Additional points if it is in a decent part of town where you can feel safe walking around at night to grab something to eat. Something like a Holiday Inn Express or Hampton Inn would be a good baseline hotel for us. Clean, decent beds, and less of the white trash drama you get from being around the other customers at the "budget" hotels.

flapshalfspeed

No offense, but you and RV5M sound like guys who didn't go to college or grew up in a developing country--you obviously have no idea what is considered "standard/acceptable" for accommodations among any professional employment sector or at any other regional airline.

Choice Hotels/LaQuintas are where blue collar workers and budget travelers stay--truck drivers, lower-middle class families going to DisneyWorld, etc..

TSA stays at Fairfields/Marriotts/Hiltons in most of the cities where we stay in trailer-trash Choice Hotel properties. RAH stays in Hiltons and DoubleTrees.

I've never seen another airline crew--regional or otherwise--at 80-90% of the hotels we stay at (unless they're cheapo guys commuting in and paying on their own dime).

Sorry you and RV5M have had such impoverished childhoods that you think a BDL LaQuinta/PIT Days Inn/SDF Ramada are acceptable-quality places to live half the month. Dang.

Harpyr

Him*, and it was tempting.

Not true. One easy example is that Envoy stays the same place as us in GSO.

How about Mesa's hotel in LBB? That place rocks! The workout room is great, the college is nearby, and there's all the food options you could want within walking distance.

Or the new hotel in BJX? With the casino next door serving cheap food and drinks, and a number of other restaurants and bars on the block.

Or the one in QRO where they'll take you downtown for a tip and you can explore the old city and eat at the 1810?

Sure, other regionals may have a better ratio of hotels that most people might prefer, but Mesa ain't that bad. No one is saying ours are superior at Mesa. The gap in quality isn't as large as you make it out to be.

flapshalfspeed

Glad our MEC seized the opportunity to LOA the hotel-buyback program, ensuring that a share of the company's cost-savings would go back into the hotel budget.

Oh wait--they didn't...because people who think like RV5M/Sennant/Giggity were running things. Ughhhhhh.

flapshalfspeed

You have no idea what you're talking about and I guarantee I've been in this industry longer than you, bro.

Have some more respect for yourselves, guys--we're airline pilots regardless of who or what we work for. Better hotels won't bankrupt the company.

SubwaySandwich

Man! throw these guys a chew toy.

MESA PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY CANT HAVE NICE THINGS

They'd be beside themselves if you gave them something nice. Defenders of casino hotels and choice hotels discounts. I bet you guys love that 1-800 FTD florist discount too.

flapshalfspeed

It's like trying to explain the difference between a Marriott and a Microtel to someone who grew up in a hut in the Congo. There's no way to explain it.

flapshalfspeed

Yes--the gap is huge.

Endeavor uses API also and stays almost exclusively in Courtyards in every city we overnight in.

Have more respect for yourself and for your profession.

SubwaySandwich

^^^^^^^^this^^^^