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12-06-2015 | 07:03 PM
#2861
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As a new hire in training the minimum monthly of 10 days off does it apply or not? Is this the same for upgrade? As far as everyone talking me out of Mesa, BTW all regionals suck, you just have to be prepared, know the contract and be good flight crewmember, it's what you make it. Look at the regionals, long upgrade, old equipment, bankruptcy, Delta suing them, WO umbrella long flow, low pay, bad QOL, name one that's going places now, lots are slowing growth, it's all a crap shoot. I don't plan on getting there and whining about this and that I'll know what to expect and deal with it. Nobody wants a whinny FO for a trip. I'm taking Mesa and taking a year to try it. If not I'll go to Atlas by then.
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12-06-2015 | 07:12 PM
#2862
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I think you mean the minimum monthly of 11 days off...and no it does not apply in training as previously stated. Same for upgrade. However, you will get more days off in training than you will on the line. There are natural breaks in the schedule and they also plan on several 2-3 day breaks so people can decompress. Student performance declines pretty rapidly with a schedule that is too intense. The schedulers are fully aware of that.
12-06-2015 | 07:19 PM
#2863
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From: gear slinger
Dude...you need to chill the effff out and stop worrying about days off during training. You will get at a bare minimum one day off a week, but most likely two. Seriously though time spent in training is such an impeccably small part of the picture. I wouldn't worry abut it. And if you're still worried after reading this, then don't come to the airlines. Go get a get a nice beurocratic "gubment" job where you can chunk efficiency out the window.
12-06-2015 | 07:28 PM
#2864
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While you are considering, consider that Xjet, Envoy, and Republic don't have any contracts to lock you in.
I got other CJOs at Republic, xJet and have class offer next week with Mesa. I'll try it for a year see what happens, it's all about options and planning. I'll deal with it if I know what's coming, just want to read the contract to see what I'm in for. Thanks for your opinions, I'm ex mil but not pilot rated coming from overseas so can't pick and chose too much right now.
12-06-2015 | 07:50 PM
#2866
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Every pilot needs to evaluate the situation for themselves, and go for the opportunities they want. Pay aside, Mesa is extremely chill place to work.
12-06-2015 | 07:54 PM
#2867
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I hear ya. Mesa is going to have to step up their game, and soon. Xjet is looking to increase FO pay by Jan, and Envoy already has a bonus (which is silly, IMHO), but that will leave Mesa in the dust pretty soon. Hopefully they rally with increased FO pay, and stay in the game!
12-06-2015 | 08:04 PM
#2868
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From: 737 FO
Maybe last year. I don't think anyone with experience and knowledge of the industry is making a lateral to Mesa anymore. I was referencing the fact that all these captains keep saying every FO they fly with is on the way out. Not a good sign. The quick upgrade only lasts as long as new hires keep coming in the door. The only chance for Mesa to get improvements to their contract is if hiring becomes a problem.
12-06-2015 | 08:39 PM
#2869
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Maybe last year. I don't think anyone with experience and knowledge of the industry is making a lateral to Mesa anymore. I was referencing the fact that all these captains keep saying every FO they fly with is on the way out. Not a good sign. The quick upgrade only lasts as long as new hires keep coming in the door. The only chance for Mesa to get improvements to their contract is if hiring becomes a problem.
Believing that every FO is leaving because you read it on APC is cray. Going back to zero at another regional isn't even all that great a move.
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12-06-2015 | 08:54 PM
#2870
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I had a Commuter DH pilot today who said that the 145s they are taking on are going to IAD. Thats a lot more RJs in Dulles, and not a lot of room. 700s to EWR sounding more likely....
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