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Old 12-04-2015 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Gjn290
You're Hawaii operation was a joke that put a lot of people out on the streets.
Oh, you mean Aloha who flew aging and gas hungry 732's? Oh, you mean Aloha who were using 737-700's across the water losing money because they didn't have the sense to get 800's and make some cash? The same Aloha who didn't modernize their fleet with 717's because HAL flew them?

Get the facts straight.
Old 12-04-2015 | 09:02 PM
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Old 12-04-2015 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jimf
Bob Jenkins is saying exactly what I mean. There is nothing that says a hobby, something you enjoy doing in your free time, can't also be your career that you are a professional at. If you make money at something that could also be considered your hobby... bonus!!!!

When I say "mere professional pilots", I mean those that don't have a true love for the career and job. They are there for a paycheck. They may have started the profession for many different reasons, but actually loving the career was not one of them. Just because I say mere professional pilot doesn't mean I'm talking about everyone who is a professional pilot. Some may or may not fit the description. It is not a blanket title. But I have seen many who have no idea why they are doing what they are doing and why they have made the choice to make this a career. Those are the "mere professional pilots" I speak of.
I don't really fit your description, but I absolutely hate the pilot lifestyle, but love the job itself. I am professional enough to know that I don't know everything.
Old 12-05-2015 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by RV5M
That's stupid. Don't come here and expect to rent an apartment first year. Get a room with roommates on Craigslist or find another Mesa pilot to live with. Even on first year pay, you can afford $400 rent. Bring your food to the airport. Live in base. I didn't go into debt my first year. Heck, I even saved a little. You're right, knowingly putting yourself on welfare is sh*tty, so don't do it. Nobody is making you. My first year W2: $22,800.

Also, if you're the sole breadwinner supporting a family or in massive debt and choose to come to a regional, ****** you. There are tons of better paying non-121 flying jobs out there.

EDIT: I've determined from Skyler02's other posts that he sucks worse that ScottyDo. Just quit yo, and stop with the pathetic crusade against your bad decision.
I can tell your under 35 years old and you weren't around when some of us had to pay to fly right seat and we're caught in a wave that we didn't ask for. Talk to some of the old timers and get their experiences. You should feel blessed your in an industry that is about to have demand and great rewards. Some of us were just born at the wrong time. Before you bash other people and tell them about their financial situation know the history of the industry. jump on the wave and ride it out and enjoy it you are young enough to do it, myself and others have been waiting decades just to live the dream you are living today, I'm just thankful I got a chance to at least try it. I'm not trying to disrespect you or anything like that. The person you are bashing spent the last couple of years doing something else that was not their passion waiting for an opportunity to fly for a 121 carrier and live that dream you are living today.

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Old 12-05-2015 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed
I've heard two versions of the rumor:

1) EJet base in EWR (covering former Republic Q400/EJet routes)

2) Move the 700s to EWR/ORD, wait x number of days, then put EJets in IAD
Neither is true. New Ejets going to IAH to support the 8 new cities in Mexico that United is opening up. Ejets will continue to "flow" through IAD with 2 staying the night. For now no Ejets in IAD MX hangar to small "confirmed" and they want to keep operations seperate. 700's in no danger of being moved for forsee able future. *Sources IAD station manager, head of MX in IAH, and Mechanic in IAD. These people would be in the loop if changes were taking place in the next 6 months.

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Old 12-05-2015 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by avi8tor614
Neither is true. New Ejets going to IAH to support the 8 new cities in Mexico that United is opening up. Ejets will continue to "flow" through IAD with 2 staying the night. For now no Ejets in IAD MX hangar to small "confirmed" and they want to keep operations seperate. 700's in no danger of being moved for forsee able future. *Sources IAD station manager, head of MX in IAH, and Mechanic in IAD. These people would be in the loop if changes were taking place in the next 6 months.

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Old 12-06-2015 | 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by avi8tor614
Neither is true. New Ejets going to IAH to support the 8 new cities in Mexico that United is opening up. Ejets will continue to "flow" through IAD with 2 staying the night.
Do you happen to know those Mexican destinations?
Old 12-06-2015 | 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mjpilot
Do you happen to know those Mexican destinations?
I was told them I can't remember all of them and my Spanish is a little off lol but United wants to make a strong presence in Mexico competing against American
Old 12-06-2015 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by RV5M
That's stupid. Don't come here and expect to rent an apartment first year. Get a room with roommates on Craigslist or find another Mesa pilot to live with. Even on first year pay, you can afford $400 rent. Bring your food to the airport. Live in base. I didn't go into debt my first year. Heck, I even saved a little. You're right, knowingly putting yourself on welfare is sh*tty, so don't do it. Nobody is making you. My first year W2: $22,800.

Also, if you're the sole breadwinner supporting a family or in massive debt and choose to come to a regional, ****** you. There are tons of better paying non-121 flying jobs out there.
I believe we are in complete agreement here.

"Don't come here and expect to rent an apartment first year."
Right. You will not be able to afford even the smallest efficiency apartment within the 90 minute call out of IAD.

"Get a room with roommates on Craigslist or find another Mesa pilot to live with."
Right. This will be your only option. You will need more than one roommate, though, so find a couple or more pilots to live with.

"Even on first year pay, you can afford $400 rent."
Correct. That is about how much you will have provided you don't have students loans or any other monthly payments.

"Live in base."
Right. That's the point. Trying to. That's why a Crashpad with a 10 night per month limit won't work.

"You're right, knowingly putting yourself on welfare is sh*tty, so don't do it. Nobody is making you. My first year W2: $22,800."
Correct. And the $22,800 is below the required minimum income to qualify for "welfare" housing so isn't an option anyway.

"Also, if you're the sole breadwinner supporting a family or in massive debt and choose to come to a regional, ****** you. There are tons of better paying non-121 flying jobs out there."

Couldn't agree with you more. Which takes us back to my original purpose of posting this information for others. As prospective employees make their choice of which regional to join or which flying job to go to, they need this information so they can make an informed decision and choose the job that works for them. It does Mesa no good, to hire and train pilots only to have them leave because they can't make it work.

So we are in agreement. Unless you are:
-Debt-free
-Single
-Child or dependent-free
And
-In a position that allows you to move to base and live with multiple people

Then maybe Mesa isn't your best option.

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Old 12-06-2015 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyler02
I believe we are in complete agreement here.

"Don't come here and expect to rent an apartment first year."
Right. You will not be able to afford even the smallest efficiency apartment within the 90 minute call out of IAD.

"Get a room with roommates on Craigslist or find another Mesa pilot to live with."
Right. This will be your only option. You will need more than one roommate, though, so find a couple or more pilots to live with.

"Even on first year pay, you can afford $400 rent."
Correct. That is about how much you will have provided you don't have students loans or any other monthly payments.

"Live in base."
Right. That's the point. Trying to. That's why a Crashpad with a 10 night per month limit won't work.

"You're right, knowingly putting yourself on welfare is sh*tty, so don't do it. Nobody is making you. My first year W2: $22,800."
Correct. And the $22,800 is below the required minimum income to qualify for "welfare" housing so isn't an option anyway.

"Also, if you're the sole breadwinner supporting a family or in massive debt and choose to come to a regional, ****** you. There are tons of better paying non-121 flying jobs out there."

Couldn't agree with you more. Which takes us back to my original purpose of posting this information for others. As prospective employees make their choice of which regional to join or which flying job to go to, they need this information so they can make an informed decision and choose the job that works for them. It does Mesa no good, to hire and train pilots only to have them leave because they can't make it work.

So we are in agreement. Unless you are:
-Debt-free
-Single
-Child or dependent-free
And
-In a position that allows you to move to base and live with multiple people

Then maybe Mesa isn't your best option.
Mesa or a regional in general?
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