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#2841
Get the facts straight.
#2843
Bob Jenkins is saying exactly what I mean. There is nothing that says a hobby, something you enjoy doing in your free time, can't also be your career that you are a professional at. If you make money at something that could also be considered your hobby... bonus!!!!
When I say "mere professional pilots", I mean those that don't have a true love for the career and job. They are there for a paycheck. They may have started the profession for many different reasons, but actually loving the career was not one of them. Just because I say mere professional pilot doesn't mean I'm talking about everyone who is a professional pilot. Some may or may not fit the description. It is not a blanket title. But I have seen many who have no idea why they are doing what they are doing and why they have made the choice to make this a career. Those are the "mere professional pilots" I speak of.
When I say "mere professional pilots", I mean those that don't have a true love for the career and job. They are there for a paycheck. They may have started the profession for many different reasons, but actually loving the career was not one of them. Just because I say mere professional pilot doesn't mean I'm talking about everyone who is a professional pilot. Some may or may not fit the description. It is not a blanket title. But I have seen many who have no idea why they are doing what they are doing and why they have made the choice to make this a career. Those are the "mere professional pilots" I speak of.
#2844
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That's stupid. Don't come here and expect to rent an apartment first year. Get a room with roommates on Craigslist or find another Mesa pilot to live with. Even on first year pay, you can afford $400 rent. Bring your food to the airport. Live in base. I didn't go into debt my first year. Heck, I even saved a little. You're right, knowingly putting yourself on welfare is sh*tty, so don't do it. Nobody is making you. My first year W2: $22,800.
Also, if you're the sole breadwinner supporting a family or in massive debt and choose to come to a regional, ****** you. There are tons of better paying non-121 flying jobs out there.
EDIT: I've determined from Skyler02's other posts that he sucks worse that ScottyDo. Just quit yo, and stop with the pathetic crusade against your bad decision.
Also, if you're the sole breadwinner supporting a family or in massive debt and choose to come to a regional, ****** you. There are tons of better paying non-121 flying jobs out there.
EDIT: I've determined from Skyler02's other posts that he sucks worse that ScottyDo. Just quit yo, and stop with the pathetic crusade against your bad decision.
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#2845
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#2846
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Neither is true. New Ejets going to IAH to support the 8 new cities in Mexico that United is opening up. Ejets will continue to "flow" through IAD with 2 staying the night. For now no Ejets in IAD MX hangar to small "confirmed" and they want to keep operations seperate. 700's in no danger of being moved for forsee able future. *Sources IAD station manager, head of MX in IAH, and Mechanic in IAD. These people would be in the loop if changes were taking place in the next 6 months.
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#2849
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Joined: Apr 2014
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That's stupid. Don't come here and expect to rent an apartment first year. Get a room with roommates on Craigslist or find another Mesa pilot to live with. Even on first year pay, you can afford $400 rent. Bring your food to the airport. Live in base. I didn't go into debt my first year. Heck, I even saved a little. You're right, knowingly putting yourself on welfare is sh*tty, so don't do it. Nobody is making you. My first year W2: $22,800.
Also, if you're the sole breadwinner supporting a family or in massive debt and choose to come to a regional, ****** you. There are tons of better paying non-121 flying jobs out there.
Also, if you're the sole breadwinner supporting a family or in massive debt and choose to come to a regional, ****** you. There are tons of better paying non-121 flying jobs out there.
"Don't come here and expect to rent an apartment first year."
Right. You will not be able to afford even the smallest efficiency apartment within the 90 minute call out of IAD.
"Get a room with roommates on Craigslist or find another Mesa pilot to live with."
Right. This will be your only option. You will need more than one roommate, though, so find a couple or more pilots to live with.
"Even on first year pay, you can afford $400 rent."
Correct. That is about how much you will have provided you don't have students loans or any other monthly payments.
"Live in base."
Right. That's the point. Trying to. That's why a Crashpad with a 10 night per month limit won't work.
"You're right, knowingly putting yourself on welfare is sh*tty, so don't do it. Nobody is making you. My first year W2: $22,800."
Correct. And the $22,800 is below the required minimum income to qualify for "welfare" housing so isn't an option anyway.
"Also, if you're the sole breadwinner supporting a family or in massive debt and choose to come to a regional, ****** you. There are tons of better paying non-121 flying jobs out there."
Couldn't agree with you more. Which takes us back to my original purpose of posting this information for others. As prospective employees make their choice of which regional to join or which flying job to go to, they need this information so they can make an informed decision and choose the job that works for them. It does Mesa no good, to hire and train pilots only to have them leave because they can't make it work.
So we are in agreement. Unless you are:
-Debt-free
-Single
-Child or dependent-free
And
-In a position that allows you to move to base and live with multiple people
Then maybe Mesa isn't your best option.
Last edited by Skyler02; 12-06-2015 at 11:20 AM.
#2850
I believe we are in complete agreement here.
"Don't come here and expect to rent an apartment first year."
Right. You will not be able to afford even the smallest efficiency apartment within the 90 minute call out of IAD.
"Get a room with roommates on Craigslist or find another Mesa pilot to live with."
Right. This will be your only option. You will need more than one roommate, though, so find a couple or more pilots to live with.
"Even on first year pay, you can afford $400 rent."
Correct. That is about how much you will have provided you don't have students loans or any other monthly payments.
"Live in base."
Right. That's the point. Trying to. That's why a Crashpad with a 10 night per month limit won't work.
"You're right, knowingly putting yourself on welfare is sh*tty, so don't do it. Nobody is making you. My first year W2: $22,800."
Correct. And the $22,800 is below the required minimum income to qualify for "welfare" housing so isn't an option anyway.
"Also, if you're the sole breadwinner supporting a family or in massive debt and choose to come to a regional, ****** you. There are tons of better paying non-121 flying jobs out there."
Couldn't agree with you more. Which takes us back to my original purpose of posting this information for others. As prospective employees make their choice of which regional to join or which flying job to go to, they need this information so they can make an informed decision and choose the job that works for them. It does Mesa no good, to hire and train pilots only to have them leave because they can't make it work.
So we are in agreement. Unless you are:
-Debt-free
-Single
-Child or dependent-free
And
-In a position that allows you to move to base and live with multiple people
Then maybe Mesa isn't your best option.
"Don't come here and expect to rent an apartment first year."
Right. You will not be able to afford even the smallest efficiency apartment within the 90 minute call out of IAD.
"Get a room with roommates on Craigslist or find another Mesa pilot to live with."
Right. This will be your only option. You will need more than one roommate, though, so find a couple or more pilots to live with.
"Even on first year pay, you can afford $400 rent."
Correct. That is about how much you will have provided you don't have students loans or any other monthly payments.
"Live in base."
Right. That's the point. Trying to. That's why a Crashpad with a 10 night per month limit won't work.
"You're right, knowingly putting yourself on welfare is sh*tty, so don't do it. Nobody is making you. My first year W2: $22,800."
Correct. And the $22,800 is below the required minimum income to qualify for "welfare" housing so isn't an option anyway.
"Also, if you're the sole breadwinner supporting a family or in massive debt and choose to come to a regional, ****** you. There are tons of better paying non-121 flying jobs out there."
Couldn't agree with you more. Which takes us back to my original purpose of posting this information for others. As prospective employees make their choice of which regional to join or which flying job to go to, they need this information so they can make an informed decision and choose the job that works for them. It does Mesa no good, to hire and train pilots only to have them leave because they can't make it work.
So we are in agreement. Unless you are:
-Debt-free
-Single
-Child or dependent-free
And
-In a position that allows you to move to base and live with multiple people
Then maybe Mesa isn't your best option.
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