New Mesa Thread
#3381
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Owns most really?
Try this .. All 175 but 8 are UAL leases.... The 8 have not been delivered ex RH leases that Mesa assumed with the last loan bond they got for 200 mill I think
All CRJ 900s are Bombardier leases since they got f--- during BK for about 285 million
BTW what ever your CEO tell you believe half and after that divide that by 2
Try this .. All 175 but 8 are UAL leases.... The 8 have not been delivered ex RH leases that Mesa assumed with the last loan bond they got for 200 mill I think
All CRJ 900s are Bombardier leases since they got f--- during BK for about 285 million
BTW what ever your CEO tell you believe half and after that divide that by 2
#3382
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Posts: 977
We had a major storm for two days in Iah and now the sky is falling? Everyone is having problems.
Yesterday the cancelations
Southwest wins 438
Express jet 380
Envoy 351
AA 350
United 284
Skywest 266
Mesa 175
Today the cancellations so far.
Expressjet 89
AA 68
Southwest 64
United 42
Skywest 41
Shuttle 26
Mesa is 13th on the list with 14 cancellations.
Yesterday the cancelations
Southwest wins 438
Express jet 380
Envoy 351
AA 350
United 284
Skywest 266
Mesa 175
Today the cancellations so far.
Expressjet 89
AA 68
Southwest 64
United 42
Skywest 41
Shuttle 26
Mesa is 13th on the list with 14 cancellations.
Post that number and if it still holds up to your argument, I'll agree with you.
But for now, comparing total number of SWA cancellations to Mesa is like comparing the total number of systemwide United cancellations--for all carriers and mainline--to just one of the Express feeders...a.k.a. completely irrelevant to the discussion.
Our IAH base is tiny in comparison to XJet, SWA's Hobby base, etc..--of course Mesa had fewer total cancellations. Show me the percentage of scheduled flights cancelled that's the only number you'll convince anyone with.
Last edited by flapshalfspeed; 12-28-2015 at 11:19 PM.
#3383
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Posts: 737
Can't give just Houston, but here's the last couple of days.
Sunday:
Cancelled
Delayed
# % # %
462 12% 1083 29% American Airlines
298 16% 456 24% ExpressJet
225 29% 128 16% Mesa
149 17% 193 22% Envoy Air
119 2% 1376 34% Southwest
92 13% 228 33% Republic
87 4% 447 23% SkyWest
66 2% 581 26% United
29 5% 52 10% Cape Air
26 9% 101 36% GoJet
21 4% 77 17% Shuttle America
Monday:
Cancelled
Delayed
# % # %
438 10% 1016 25% Southwest
380 21% 486 27% ExpressJet
352 10% 938 26% American Airlines
350 42% 165 19% Envoy Air
300 14% 519 24% United
267 14% 388 20% SkyWest
178 26% 181 27% Mesa
169 25% 164 25% Republic
110 38% 77 26% GoJet
83 15% 128 24% Endeavor Air
78 20% 62 15% Shuttle America
And today:
Cancelled
Delayed
# % # %
131 7% 33 2% ExpressJet
121 3% 119 3% Southwest
117 3% 68 2% American Airlines
89 4% 70 3% United
46 2% 37 2% SkyWest
29 4% 26 4% Republic
29 4% 4 0% Mesa
29 10% 13 4% GoJet
26 7% 10 2% Shuttle America
24 5% 2 0% WestJet
20 2% 5 0% Envoy Air
Sunday:
Cancelled
Delayed
# % # %
462 12% 1083 29% American Airlines
298 16% 456 24% ExpressJet
225 29% 128 16% Mesa
149 17% 193 22% Envoy Air
119 2% 1376 34% Southwest
92 13% 228 33% Republic
87 4% 447 23% SkyWest
66 2% 581 26% United
29 5% 52 10% Cape Air
26 9% 101 36% GoJet
21 4% 77 17% Shuttle America
Monday:
Cancelled
Delayed
# % # %
438 10% 1016 25% Southwest
380 21% 486 27% ExpressJet
352 10% 938 26% American Airlines
350 42% 165 19% Envoy Air
300 14% 519 24% United
267 14% 388 20% SkyWest
178 26% 181 27% Mesa
169 25% 164 25% Republic
110 38% 77 26% GoJet
83 15% 128 24% Endeavor Air
78 20% 62 15% Shuttle America
And today:
Cancelled
Delayed
# % # %
131 7% 33 2% ExpressJet
121 3% 119 3% Southwest
117 3% 68 2% American Airlines
89 4% 70 3% United
46 2% 37 2% SkyWest
29 4% 26 4% Republic
29 4% 4 0% Mesa
29 10% 13 4% GoJet
26 7% 10 2% Shuttle America
24 5% 2 0% WestJet
20 2% 5 0% Envoy Air
#3384
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Position: B756 FO
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I will never forget the guys that used to cry about being on hold for 3-4 hours. Once you heard that you were 50 in line to talk to a scheduler its either time to go back to the hotel or go home...
#3385
Wow, I thought 45 minutes to talk to a crew tracker was bad. 3-4 hours?? Who would wait that long?
#3386
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Posts: 373
I waited for 2 45 minutes sessions to tell crew tracking I couldn't accept a trip with 5 minutes to show time as I was on regular reserve. She was confused for some reason and was upset with me that I spent an hour and a half on hold instead of immediately leaving for the airport.
#3387
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Position: B756 FO
Posts: 1,288
Company lifers got a kick out of playing the victim over there. They would post a screen shot of their phone call hold time on social media with some "poor me" caption.
#3388
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Posts: 977
You have resoundingly shut down giggity's attempt to use total cancellations as a metric of operational performance. We cancelled roughly twice as many of our scheduled flights than any other carrier on Sunday, Dec. 27th. Proves my point.
IMHO a big part of our operational meltdown was lack of an EJet pilot base in IAD. An IAD EJet pilot base/pure IAD EJet trips would have drastically reduced our cancellation factor on Sunday, but hey I'm just a pilot what do I know?
Someone in our planning/scheduling department seems obsessed with these linear lines, running EJets IAH->[TUL/AUS/DFW/OKC/SAT]->IAD and back. It finally burned them on Sunday and cost them a lot of unneccesary cancellations. Hopefully someone at United/Mesa realizes that maybe covering 10-15 EJet lines out of IAD from a crew base FOUR HOURS away in a completely different part of the country/completely different weather is a bad idea.
Not my problem, tbh, just seems very dumb to lose all that revenue cancelling IAD flights all because our fleet/EJet pilots are stuck in Houston.
IMHO a big part of our operational meltdown was lack of an EJet pilot base in IAD. An IAD EJet pilot base/pure IAD EJet trips would have drastically reduced our cancellation factor on Sunday, but hey I'm just a pilot what do I know?
Someone in our planning/scheduling department seems obsessed with these linear lines, running EJets IAH->[TUL/AUS/DFW/OKC/SAT]->IAD and back. It finally burned them on Sunday and cost them a lot of unneccesary cancellations. Hopefully someone at United/Mesa realizes that maybe covering 10-15 EJet lines out of IAD from a crew base FOUR HOURS away in a completely different part of the country/completely different weather is a bad idea.
Not my problem, tbh, just seems very dumb to lose all that revenue cancelling IAD flights all because our fleet/EJet pilots are stuck in Houston.
Can't give just Houston, but here's the last couple of days.
Sunday:
Cancelled
Delayed
# % # %
462 12% 1083 29% American Airlines
298 16% 456 24% ExpressJet
225 29% 128 16% Mesa
149 17% 193 22% Envoy Air
119 2% 1376 34% Southwest
92 13% 228 33% Republic
87 4% 447 23% SkyWest
66 2% 581 26% United
29 5% 52 10% Cape Air
26 9% 101 36% GoJet
21 4% 77 17% Shuttle America
Monday:
Cancelled
Delayed
# % # %
438 10% 1016 25% Southwest
380 21% 486 27% ExpressJet
352 10% 938 26% American Airlines
350 42% 165 19% Envoy Air
300 14% 519 24% United
267 14% 388 20% SkyWest
178 26% 181 27% Mesa
169 25% 164 25% Republic
110 38% 77 26% GoJet
83 15% 128 24% Endeavor Air
78 20% 62 15% Shuttle America
And today:
Cancelled
Delayed
# % # %
131 7% 33 2% ExpressJet
121 3% 119 3% Southwest
117 3% 68 2% American Airlines
89 4% 70 3% United
46 2% 37 2% SkyWest
29 4% 26 4% Republic
29 4% 4 0% Mesa
29 10% 13 4% GoJet
26 7% 10 2% Shuttle America
24 5% 2 0% WestJet
20 2% 5 0% Envoy Air
Sunday:
Cancelled
Delayed
# % # %
462 12% 1083 29% American Airlines
298 16% 456 24% ExpressJet
225 29% 128 16% Mesa
149 17% 193 22% Envoy Air
119 2% 1376 34% Southwest
92 13% 228 33% Republic
87 4% 447 23% SkyWest
66 2% 581 26% United
29 5% 52 10% Cape Air
26 9% 101 36% GoJet
21 4% 77 17% Shuttle America
Monday:
Cancelled
Delayed
# % # %
438 10% 1016 25% Southwest
380 21% 486 27% ExpressJet
352 10% 938 26% American Airlines
350 42% 165 19% Envoy Air
300 14% 519 24% United
267 14% 388 20% SkyWest
178 26% 181 27% Mesa
169 25% 164 25% Republic
110 38% 77 26% GoJet
83 15% 128 24% Endeavor Air
78 20% 62 15% Shuttle America
And today:
Cancelled
Delayed
# % # %
131 7% 33 2% ExpressJet
121 3% 119 3% Southwest
117 3% 68 2% American Airlines
89 4% 70 3% United
46 2% 37 2% SkyWest
29 4% 26 4% Republic
29 4% 4 0% Mesa
29 10% 13 4% GoJet
26 7% 10 2% Shuttle America
24 5% 2 0% WestJet
20 2% 5 0% Envoy Air
#3389
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Posts: 1,666
You have resoundingly shut down giggity's attempt to use total cancellations as a metric of operational performance. We cancelled roughly twice as many of our scheduled flights than any other carrier on Sunday, Dec. 27th. Proves my point.
IMHO a big part of our operational meltdown was lack of an EJet pilot base in IAD. An IAD EJet pilot base/pure IAD EJet trips would have drastically reduced our cancellation factor on Sunday, but hey I'm just a pilot what do I know?
Someone in our planning/scheduling department seems obsessed with these linear lines, running EJets IAH->[TUL/AUS/DFW/OKC/SAT]->IAD and back. It finally burned them on Sunday and cost them a lot of unneccesary cancellations. Hopefully someone at United/Mesa realizes that maybe covering 10-15 EJet lines out of IAD from a crew base FOUR HOURS away in a completely different part of the country/completely different weather is a bad idea.
Not my problem, tbh, just seems very dumb to lose all that revenue cancelling IAD flights all because our fleet/EJet pilots are stuck in Houston.
IMHO a big part of our operational meltdown was lack of an EJet pilot base in IAD. An IAD EJet pilot base/pure IAD EJet trips would have drastically reduced our cancellation factor on Sunday, but hey I'm just a pilot what do I know?
Someone in our planning/scheduling department seems obsessed with these linear lines, running EJets IAH->[TUL/AUS/DFW/OKC/SAT]->IAD and back. It finally burned them on Sunday and cost them a lot of unneccesary cancellations. Hopefully someone at United/Mesa realizes that maybe covering 10-15 EJet lines out of IAD from a crew base FOUR HOURS away in a completely different part of the country/completely different weather is a bad idea.
Not my problem, tbh, just seems very dumb to lose all that revenue cancelling IAD flights all because our fleet/EJet pilots are stuck in Houston.
#3390
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 688
Someone in our planning/scheduling department seems obsessed with these linear lines, running EJets IAH->[TUL/AUS/DFW/OKC/SAT]->IAD and back. It finally burned them on Sunday and cost them a lot of unneccesary cancellations. Hopefully someone at United/Mesa realizes that maybe covering 10-15 EJet lines out of IAD from a crew base FOUR HOURS away in a completely different part of the country/completely different weather is a bad idea.
Not my problem, tbh, just seems very dumb to lose all that revenue cancelling IAD flights all because our fleet/EJet pilots are stuck in Houston.
Not my problem, tbh, just seems very dumb to lose all that revenue cancelling IAD flights all because our fleet/EJet pilots are stuck in Houston.
You honestly think Mesa is deciding where our planes fly and that were choosing the cities and routings? You obviously know nothing about feeder scheduling
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