Fact #1: Envoy provides hotels for commuters. No need for a crash pad.

Fact #2: I have spoken with many people I know at Envoy...on RSV those who want to fly do. Those who want to sit at home on a RAP do so as well.

Fact #3: Envoy is flowing over 300 Captains to AA this year alone. Again in 2017 and beyond. I know at Mesa stuff like that is impossible to grasp...but it's called MOVEMENT. Upwards movement.

You need to put down that Mesa blunt you keep smoking and get out as soon as you can. Other airlines do it better...You will be doing yourself a favor getting the hell away from that place. Why are you so loyal to such a crappy airline? You think JO gives two-you know whats- about you or your family?

Oh, and one more fact that will blow your mind: I've just been hired by American Airlines. No interview for me anymore. When my flow number comes up I just go. Simple as that. And I did some very basic math on it: At the current flow rate and looking at how many people are above me on the seniority list, it will take me about 5 years to flow to AA. 5 years. That is NOTHING. And that's also taking into consideration that after the October 2011 guys flow, all 3 wholly owned airlines will flow in equal amounts. In 5 years everyone I know at Mesa will be stabbing each other in the back at job fairs just to get hired by some LCC. Good luck with that. Haters gonna hate...

 

Ha... Dude I'm far from loyal to this place. I've got two more months here and then I'm out of the 121 world for good (and couldn't be more excited about it). You said that you hadn't worked anywhere but Mesa, and then proceeded to tell us about how you think it's rainbows and unicorns over there. I've worked at another airline before (XJT) and can confirm that every regional is more or less the same thing.

That's all I was trying to say.

 

^^^ Do you have the link to that news article? Thanks..

NVM...Found it:

http://www.envoyair.com/2016/01/26/f...-operate-e175/

 

Jetnet-Envoy ...also like the new AA/WO uniforms and wings..

 

I don't have access to jetnet yet...but it's on the main webpage:

EnvoyAir

 

 

Congrats man, sounds like you are moving up. Envoy is a great company to work for I believe. It will be interesting to hear of your experiences as you share the journey, having already experienced the 121 world, and can compare for other who will follow in your footsteps.

Are you going to start out in the E175? Wasn't sure they were opening those to new hires just yet.

As for your fact below... Don't they pay for 4 hotel nights per month?

 

Thanks man. I'll keep the updates coming, probably over in the Envoy thread eventually. I'm not sure about the E175...new hires are supposed to start in them sometime soon. I don't really care...I'm just happy to be on with Envoy at this point. If I get the E175 out of training or at some point down the road it's all the same to me.

The commuter hotels, as explained to me by various people is 4 per month. Although as a commuter you will rarely need more than 4...but in those instances I've been told that nobody has ever been denied a hotel even if they have already used 4 for the month.

 

Get ready to see how much Ric Wilson thinks about your family, lol. Well over 30% of their pilots on reserve, and 62hr lines? Enjoy!

But seriously, congratulations. Their interview used to be tough, and I imagine it still takes considerable prep. Their training is outstanding, all the HR stuff is handled smoothly and quickly, and there are many outstanding pilots there. If ENY is what it takes for you to achieve your goals, and you make it work, then that's all that really matters.

 

I didn't really pay attention. They finally got them? Be glad you have never had to do manual revisions. I know I'm regretting my decision everyday. I could still be on reserve and have my promised flow. All I have now is 4 bars and a awesome schedule. But seriously let us know how it is in 6 months. You "might" change your tune. Good luck I hope it works out.