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Old 03-02-2016 | 08:00 AM
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Wasn't one of the recruiters the MEC chairman or atleast a higher up with ALPA at some point? You'd think he'd get it and know that new hires = pilot group continuing to get ****ted on. Another reason why ALPA is worthless.
Old 03-02-2016 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Slaveaway
Wasn't one of the recruiters the MEC chairman or atleast a higher up with ALPA at some point? You'd think he'd get it and know that new hires = pilot group continuing to get ****ted on. Another reason why ALPA is worthless.
It's also the same person people want yo come back as chair. And was a big proponent of "telling new hires the truth".

Who promptly became the attendance nazi right after quitting the mec. And got put in charge of recruiting after some issues as a check airman.
Old 03-02-2016 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by FrequentFly3r
Unbelieveable. I cannot understand their logic.
I was at the training center recently and talked to a few of the new hires in the break room, and it seems a lot of them are holding onto the false hope that they will be a captain in less than a year. Most that I talked to had some sort of previous 121/135 time flying something high performance and plan on upgrading out of seniority.

I tried my best to arm them with facts and explain that there are literally 600 pilots ahead of them planning on doing that exact same thing, and that a huge chunk of them are hitting captain mins right now, as in TODAY.

The company is trying hard to bait people in right now with all of the soft pay handed out to new hires, better hotels during training (no more sleep inn), etc... The company does a good job with the promo videos of employees talking about how much they love it here (which is possible for some) with clips FAs running around on the beach in Socal on an overnight, which does happen on occasion but it does not at all paint a very accurate picture of what life is like here. Most are going to be severely disappointed when the koolaid wears off and they wake up in an old La Quinta that smells like @ss, with kids running down the hall screaming, all while they shake heads in disbelief at how desolate their bank account looks on third year FO pay.

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Old 03-02-2016 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by tinman1
I was at the training center recently and talked to a few of the new hires in the break room, and it seems a lot of them are holding onto the false hope that they will be a captain in less than a year. Most that I talked to had some sort of previous 121/135 time flying something high performance and plan on upgrading out of seniority.

I tried my best to arm them with facts and explain that there are literally 600 pilots ahead of them planning on doing that exact same thing, and that a huge chunk of them are hitting captain mins right now, as in TODAY.

The company is trying hard to bait people in right now with all of the soft pay handed out to new hires, better hotels during training (no more sleep inn), etc... Most are going to be severely disappointed when the koolaid wears off and they wake up in an old La Quinta that smells like @ss, with kids running down the hall screaming, all while they shake heads in disbelief at how desolate their bank account looks on third year FO pay.
This is 100% true.
Old 03-02-2016 | 11:04 AM
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Im going to the training center and gonna blast these newhires with the real info. It seams that these newhires don't read APC and the constant garbage about Mesa and their contract. I shall enlighten them! I'm gonna make all of them address me as sir or Captain.
Old 03-02-2016 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by tinman1
Most are going to be severely disappointed when the koolaid wears off and they wake up in an old La Quinta that smells like @ss, with kids running down the hall screaming, all while they shake heads in disbelief at how desolate their bank account looks on third year FO pay.
Quoted for truth. Painfully true.
Old 03-02-2016 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by tinman1
I was at the training center recently and talked to a few of the new hires in the break room, and it seems a lot of them are holding onto the false hope that they will be a captain in less than a year. Most that I talked to had some sort of previous 121/135 time flying something high performance and plan on upgrading out of seniority.

I tried my best to arm them with facts and explain that there are literally 600 pilots ahead of them planning on doing that exact same thing, and that a huge chunk of them are hitting captain mins right now, as in TODAY.

The company is trying hard to bait people in right now with all of the soft pay handed out to new hires, better hotels during training (no more sleep inn), etc... The company does a good job with the promo videos of employees talking about how much they love it here (which is possible for some) with clips FAs running around on the beach in Socal on an overnight, which does happen on occasion but it does not at all paint a very accurate picture of what life is like here. Most are going to be severely disappointed when the koolaid wears off and they wake up in an old La Quinta that smells like @ss, with kids running down the hall screaming, all while they shake heads in disbelief at how desolate their bank account looks on third year FO pay.
I'm feeling the pain they will soon be feeling.
Old 03-02-2016 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by tinman1
I was at the training center recently and talked to a few of the new hires in the break room, and it seems a lot of them are holding onto the false hope that they will be a captain in less than a year. Most that I talked to had some sort of previous 121/135 time flying something high performance and plan on upgrading out of seniority.

I tried my best to arm them with facts and explain that there are literally 600 pilots ahead of them planning on doing that exact same thing, and that a huge chunk of them are hitting captain mins right now, as in TODAY.

The company is trying hard to bait people in right now with all of the soft pay handed out to new hires, better hotels during training (no more sleep inn), etc... The company does a good job with the promo videos of employees talking about how much they love it here (which is possible for some) with clips FAs running around on the beach in Socal on an overnight, which does happen on occasion but it does not at all paint a very accurate picture of what life is like here. Most are going to be severely disappointed when the koolaid wears off and they wake up in an old La Quinta that smells like @ss, with kids running down the hall screaming, all while they shake heads in disbelief at how desolate their bank account looks on third year FO pay.

I really don't know who your talking to today but 70% of them are not even worried about upgrades. Most of the guys live at base, army least 6 came from go jets who really gave them a raw deal and the remaining few seems to be excited of getting a job, no one mentioned to me nothing about upgrades.
Old 03-02-2016 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Cloud 9
I really don't know who your talking to today but 70% of them are not even worried about upgrades. Most of the guys live at base, army least 6 came from go jets who really gave them a raw deal and the remaining few seems to be excited of getting a job, no one mentioned to me nothing about upgrades.
Can somebody translate this for me please?
Old 03-02-2016 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by tinman1
I was at the training center recently and talked to a few of the new hires in the break room, and it seems a lot of them are holding onto the false hope that they will be a captain in less than a year. Most that I talked to had some sort of previous 121/135 time flying something high performance and plan on upgrading out of seniority.

I tried my best to arm them with facts and explain that there are literally 600 pilots ahead of them planning on doing that exact same thing, and that a huge chunk of them are hitting captain mins right now, as in TODAY.

The company is trying hard to bait people in right now with all of the soft pay handed out to new hires, better hotels during training (no more sleep inn), etc... The company does a good job with the promo videos of employees talking about how much they love it here (which is possible for some) with clips FAs running around on the beach in Socal on an overnight, which does happen on occasion but it does not at all paint a very accurate picture of what life is like here. Most are going to be severely disappointed when the koolaid wears off and they wake up in an old La Quinta that smells like @ss, with kids running down the hall screaming, all while they shake heads in disbelief at how desolate their bank account looks on third year FO pay.
How many fos are on third year pay? you must obviously haven't been able to pass upgrade. No one knows when the upgrade train will end. If it's so bad go to republic and get back to us.
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