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Old 05-02-2016, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by NovemberBravo View Post
The weather isn't bad and your tune will change once you get a taste of Ejet schedules
I'm from Virginia so IAD is appealing and an EJET domicile/schedule would be a nice perk.
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Old 05-02-2016, 08:10 PM
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If I had to do it over, Ejet...
I get ****ed every time I think about it.
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Old 05-02-2016, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by CrosswindSolo View Post
I'm from Virginia so IAD is appealing and an EJET domicile/schedule would be a nice perk.
There are other regionals in IAD that pay way better than Mesa.
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Old 05-02-2016, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by NovemberBravo View Post
I get ****ed every time I think about it.
Yeah you got hosed with your bid timing and the ejet announcement.
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Old 05-02-2016, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by tinman1 View Post
There are other regionals in IAD that pay way better than Mesa.
Which I am also considering. I am on the Tuition Reimbursement Program at ATP though so I would make an extra 6k in retention my first year if I stay with the program.
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Old 05-02-2016, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CrosswindSolo View Post
Which I am also considering. I am on the Tuition Reimbursement Program at ATP though so I would make an extra 6k in retention my first year if I stay with the program.
You will make well over 6k more at any other regional at IAD over 2 years then at Mesa.
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Old 05-03-2016, 01:09 AM
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You will make well over 6k more at any other regional at IAD over 2 years then at Mesa.
^^^and if you don't come to Mesa, you'll also stay in Hilton/Marriott-branded properties instead of the worst, most disgusting, mildew/bedbug-infested dumps any flight crew on the planet (regional and mainline included) stays at

Mesa is the only airline who puts crews in second/third-tier hotels still--there are ZERO other flight crew on almost ALL of our hotel vans on every single overnight. For good reason.

If you're ok with spending half of your life sleeping and showering in borderline-inhumane squalor, and your life outside of work is like sleeping in a van by the river, then yeah--you'll fit in just fine. But if you like sleeping on linens that were cleaned before you arrived, and you like being able to walk around your hotel room barefoot with zero consideration or second thoughts about contracting a fungal infection/stepping on a used needle, or someone else's reproductive fluids? Probably need to stay away from here--not worth the 3-4 year upgrade (which is comparable to any other regionals' upgrade, fyi).

Save yourself the fungal infections and bedbug infestations--go somewhere that puts you in hotels equal or better to your living conditions at home. You'll contract at least 1-2 exotic fungal skin infections at Mesa per year with our current hotels. I am not exaggerating at all--prior121 and multiple other pilots here will back me up on this 100%.

If you value your health and safety you will not accept a job here. Hard facts--but true. Sorry if that "real talk" cuts through all the flashy recruitment vids and promises of quick upgrades, but it's true. Find a wholly-owned and go there--don't come here. I've been in this racket long enough to know when something is about to trend downwards--you do not need to come here and stay in third-world living conditions just to get a quick upgrade and move on to mainline. Plenty of other places will pay you well, put you up in Hyatts, Hiltons, Marriotts and upgrade you just as quickly.

You're welcome for this piece of advice that will make your life better now and in the future.

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Old 05-03-2016, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed View Post
^^^and if you don't come to Mesa, you'll also stay in Hilton/Marriott-branded properties instead of the worst, most disgusting, mildew/bedbug-infested dumps any flight crew on the planet (regional and mainline included) stays at

Mesa is the only airline who puts crews in second/third-tier hotels still--there are ZERO other flight crew on almost ALL of our hotel vans on every single overnight. For good reason.

If you're ok with spending half of your life sleeping and showering in borderline-inhumane squalor, and your life outside of work is like sleeping in a van by the river, then yeah--you'll fit in just fine. But if you like sleeping on linens that were cleaned before you arrived, and you like being able to walk around your hotel room barefoot with zero consideration or second thoughts about contracting a fungal infection/stepping on a used needle, or someone else's reproductive fluids? Probably need to stay away from here--not worth the 3-4 year upgrade (which is comparable to any other regionals' upgrade, fyi).

Save yourself the fungal infections and bedbug infestations--go somewhere that puts you in hotels equal or better to your living conditions at home. You'll contract at least 1-2 exotic fungal skin infections at Mesa per year with our current hotels. I am not exaggerating at all--prior121 and multiple other pilots here will back me up on this 100%.

If you value your health and safety you will not accept a job here. Hard facts--but true. Sorry if that "real talk" cuts through all the flashy recruitment vids and promises of quick upgrades, but it's true. Find a wholly-owned and go there--don't come here. I've been in this racket long enough to know when something is about to trend downwards--you do not need to come here and stay in third-world living conditions just to get a quick upgrade and move on to mainline. Plenty of other places will pay you well, put you up in Hyatts, Hiltons, Marriotts and upgrade you just as quickly.

You're welcome for this piece of advice that will make your life better now and in the future.
^^^^ This^^^^
at a $30-39.99 per night rate cap no one will even touch us. The questionable stares you get from motel guests are always the best. The chuckles you notice from other flight crews as you step on a Microtel/la Quinta/baymont/Comfort Inn van for the 3rd day in a row. Better yet when every hotel van driver from Fairfied inn to Hilton ask what hotel you're going to. Just watch as you tell them and they choke a little and shake there head because:

A. They have now idea where or what obscure place you're staying at is...period!
Or
B. They cannot believe a flight crew stays at such a dump.

Welcome to Mesa. For 7 months out of the year you will live in 3rd tier dumps. Dumps that you are ashamed of. Yes, you will be ashamed of who you work for just like the majority of the new hires who adamantly defend their decision to come to Mesa and then walk around all day with their badge purposely clipped backwards.This is where you will have chosen to work. More importantly you will have chosen this during a time where everyone will take you. The others will give you more and even treat you better.

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Old 05-03-2016, 04:52 AM
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Go to an airline in which they have a base where you live. Always the best choice. Yes they may close the domicile, but do as good of research as you can. There are better choices depending on your situation. Mesa was the best choice for IAH for ME. Can't even consider OO or EV due to shrinkage here.
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Old 05-03-2016, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed View Post
^^^and if you don't come to Mesa, you'll also stay in Hilton/Marriott-branded properties instead of the worst, most disgusting, mildew/bedbug-infested dumps any flight crew on the planet (regional and mainline included) stays at

Mesa is the only airline who puts crews in second/third-tier hotels still--there are ZERO other flight crew on almost ALL of our hotel vans on every single overnight. For good reason.

If you're ok with spending half of your life sleeping and showering in borderline-inhumane squalor, and your life outside of work is like sleeping in a van by the river, then yeah--you'll fit in just fine. But if you like sleeping on linens that were cleaned before you arrived, and you like being able to walk around your hotel room barefoot with zero consideration or second thoughts about contracting a fungal infection/stepping on a used needle, or someone else's reproductive fluids? Probably need to stay away from here--not worth the 3-4 year upgrade (which is comparable to any other regionals' upgrade, fyi).

Save yourself the fungal infections and bedbug infestations--go somewhere that puts you in hotels equal or better to your living conditions at home. You'll contract at least 1-2 exotic fungal skin infections at Mesa per year with our current hotels. I am not exaggerating at all--prior121 and multiple other pilots here will back me up on this 100%.

If you value your health and safety you will not accept a job here. Hard facts--but true. Sorry if that "real talk" cuts through all the flashy recruitment vids and promises of quick upgrades, but it's true. Find a wholly-owned and go there--don't come here. I've been in this racket long enough to know when something is about to trend downwards--you do not need to come here and stay in third-world living conditions just to get a quick upgrade and move on to mainline. Plenty of other places will pay you well, put you up in Hyatts, Hiltons, Marriotts and upgrade you just as quickly.

You're welcome for this piece of advice that will make your life better now and in the future.
Great post!! Props!! The truth hurts sometimes.
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