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Old 08-16-2015 | 09:52 AM
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We're still debating this? It's a clear NO. As someone who usually bids RSV CML voluntarily, these new RSV rules are worse than our current contract.
Old 08-16-2015 | 11:18 AM
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On a different note. If you go the the skynet.ual.com website and log in using your N number. Then search employee benefits, select your cellphone carrier from the list, look for the link current subscriber, enter in your phone number, then use your [email protected] email address, you can get a 20-22 percent discount. Ive been getting it for years. 22 percent with ATT. Seems like no one knows or passes it along. If you go to Mesa's website, it is only 8 percent. So here you go.
Old 08-16-2015 | 02:12 PM
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I agree this TA has major shortcomings. But before I jump on the burn it down bandwagon I think there needs to be a sober discussion about where we go from here and what can realistically be obtained after another 2 or 3 years of negotiations. There are some good things like dropping reserve days and aggressive open time pick up for reserves. Do we want to throw it all out for several more years of status quo? -That is a rhetorical question, I'm not advocating one way or the other. Either way we have several more weeks until a vote. If you've already made up your mind that's great, but it doesn't mean the discussion is over. I admit I was pretty depressed when I saw this TA but maybe it's just because of the reality of our situation. Like someone else said we aren't Delta.
Old 08-16-2015 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 121again
I agree this TA has major shortcomings. But before I jump on the burn it down bandwagon I think there needs to be a sober discussion about where we go from here and what can realistically be obtained after another 2 or 3 years of negotiations. There are some good things like dropping reserve days and aggressive open time pick up for reserves. Do we want to throw it all out for several more years of status quo? -That is a rhetorical question, I'm not advocating one way or the other. Either way we have several more weeks until a vote. If you've already made up your mind that's great, but it doesn't mean the discussion is over. I admit I was pretty depressed when I saw this TA but maybe it's just because of the reality of our situation. Like someone else said we aren't Delta.
This will be your contract for the next ten years. Just think about that.
Old 08-16-2015 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 121again
I agree this TA has major shortcomings. But before I jump on the burn it down bandwagon I think there needs to be a sober discussion about where we go from here and what can realistically be obtained after another 2 or 3 years of negotiations. There are some good things like dropping reserve days and aggressive open time pick up for reserves. Do we want to throw it all out for several more years of status quo? -That is a rhetorical question, I'm not advocating one way or the other. Either way we have several more weeks until a vote. If you've already made up your mind that's great, but it doesn't mean the discussion is over. I admit I was pretty depressed when I saw this TA but maybe it's just because of the reality of our situation. Like someone else said we aren't Delta.
This line of thinking is why we can't have nice things. I would vote this down just for the pure fact that it's a 5 year deal.
Old 08-16-2015 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by logic1
This will be your contract for the next ten years. Just think about that.
I work at Mesa. I worked at Republic also. I voted no on that contract and I'll vote no on this one. I will not be directly responsible for pilots having 2003 rates in 2019. These wages are a joke. I would rather see the airline go under then see guys stuck at 9 year FO pay making under 40k.. Yes there are lots of Captains that put in time. Well it's a two way street. Don't do the company any favors. The language in this TA is terrible also.
Old 08-16-2015 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Q400winner
I work at Mesa. I worked at Republic also. I voted no on that contract and I'll vote no on this one. I will not be directly responsible for pilots having 2003 rates in 2019.
Couldn't figure out if you are serious or just a troll...
Old 08-16-2015 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Squawk87
Couldn't figure out if you are serious or just a troll...

Ehhhhhh?


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Old 08-16-2015 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Q400winner
I work at Mesa. I worked at Republic also. I voted no on that contract and I'll vote no on this one. I will not be directly responsible for pilots having 2003 rates in 2019. These wages are a joke. I would rather see the airline go under then see guys stuck at 9 year FO pay making under 40k.. Yes there are lots of Captains that put in time. Well it's a two way street. Don't do the company any favors. The language in this TA is terrible also.
How long and how many contracts have we had these same payrates?
Old 08-16-2015 | 04:15 PM
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Well, last amended 2008. But the truth is, we aren't gaining much by passing it. The pilots in the future will hopefully have better leverage to get better rates than this. But these rates are worse than every regional in the industry. They are lower than republics expired contract rates. These are truths.


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