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Old 11-16-2016 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Seventhreeseven
Hey does anyone know if Michael Froelich still works at Mesa?

He and I went to flight training, initial, and upgrade together many moons ago.
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Yup, saw him the other day. Great guy!
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Old 11-16-2016 | 09:10 AM
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And the race back up continues . . .

Envoy boosts industry-leading starting pay to $60,000! | Envoy Air

Envoy - Day 1 sign on bonus just went from $20K to $22K. First year starting pay now $60K.

Keep upping the game! Man, this is fun to watch.
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Old 11-16-2016 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by tinman1
AH either sucks at listening or has an entirely different agenda of his own.




Always different agenda

Be aware
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Old 11-16-2016 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyler02
And the race back up continues . . .

Envoy boosts industry-leading starting pay to $60,000! | Envoy Air

Envoy - Day 1 sign on bonus just went from $20K to $22K. First year starting pay now $60K.

Keep upping the game! Man, this is fun to watch.
Same for PSA and Piedmont. What one gets the others generally get too.
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Old 11-16-2016 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyler02
And the race back up continues . . .

Envoy boosts industry-leading starting pay to $60,000! | Envoy Air

Envoy - Day 1 sign on bonus just went from $20K to $22K. First year starting pay now $60K.

Keep upping the game! Man, this is fun to watch.
Too bad Mesa isn't in that race. They are still in the race to the bottom. Don't think they got the memo about the changes to the industry.
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Old 11-16-2016 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
Same for PSA and Piedmont. What one gets the others generally get too.
This is in ADDITION to what the WOs announced a few weeks ago. This was announced today.

Signing bonus just went from $20,000 to $22,100. It's obviously a response to Endeavor upping their game, was it last week?

And, yes. I would expect PSA and Piedmont to swing back with another increase too.

If anyone is keeping score, the other companies' signing bonuses are now more than a Mesa FO's full year pay.

Watching these volleys go back and forth is entertainment at it's finest.
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Old 11-16-2016 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
Too bad Mesa isn't in that race. They are still in the race to the bottom. Don't think they got the memo about the changes to the industry.
I think the west coast/southwest region produces more pilots than the east coast. West coasters want to stay put by and large, hence the falling behind of the curve on payrates at skw, cpz and of course mesa.
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Old 11-16-2016 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TimetoClimb
I think the west coast/southwest region produces more pilots than the east coast. West coasters want to stay put by and large, hence the falling behind of the curve on payrates at skw, cpz and of course mesa.
This, this, and this. It seems a large number of applicants interested in coming here is because of the PHX domicile, as we have seen in this thread. Folks will drop their panties in a snap and concede on all kinds of points to get out west.

Here's a question, how come none of the wholly owned regionals have domiciles out west?
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Old 11-16-2016 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tinman1
This, this, and this. It seems a large number of applicants interested in coming here is because of the PHX domicile, as we have seen in this thread. Folks will drop their panties in a snap and concede on all kinds of points to get out west.

Here's a question, how come none of the wholly owned regionals have domiciles out west?
Envoy closed the LA base awhile ago. Horizon is a WO.
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Old 11-17-2016 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyler02
This is in ADDITION to what the WOs announced a few weeks ago. This was announced today.

Signing bonus just went from $20,000 to $22,100. It's obviously a response to Endeavor upping their game, was it last week?

And, yes. I would expect PSA and Piedmont to swing back with another increase too.

If anyone is keeping score, the other companies' signing bonuses are now more than a Mesa FO's full year pay.

Watching these volleys go back and forth is entertainment at it's finest.
I'm curious what's going to happen to all of the regional airlines not owned by a major. Going to be very hard for any of them to keep up with the ones owned by American, who has a ton of money to keep up the bonuses. Of course, Mesa is the worst off because of the terrible pay, but this will start affecting others too.
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