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Old 12-14-2016 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Sennant
And looking at the standing bid can only pronounce the names of 5 of them.
^^^ This ^^^

[x] English proficient box checked.

I'm not sure which English some of these guys are speaking, but it's certainly not The Queen's English.

Hell I'd settle for Queens, The Bronx, or Ebonics!
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Old 12-14-2016 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Bikingscott
^^^ This ^^^

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I'm not sure which English some of these guys are speaking, but it's certainly not The Queen's English.

Hell I'd settle for Queens, The Bronx, or Ebonics!
What does the fact that Sennant can only pronounce 5 of their names have to do with their ability to speak English?
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Old 12-15-2016 | 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Santos Dumont
What does the fact that Sennant can only pronounce 5 of their names have to do with their ability to speak English?
Just listen to ground or ramp during a big Mesa push. You'll answer your own question.
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Old 12-15-2016 | 07:41 AM
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Remember those conf calls when the union and management said that these 50 seat companies like SkyWest have stocks that were cratering because of all their 50 seaters? And they'd have to file a bankruptcy to get to get rid of them? And that Mesa was the best place to work because it's the only company that is well positioned with no 50 seaters and good cost structure? They said that when SKYW stock was at a 2-5 year high (low-mid 20s a couple dif times they said it). SKYW yesterday announced a deal with bombardier to give their 200s back (on the XJT side I think, not sure of the details), got paid $90m by bombardier, and their stock is now again at an all time high at $39. Guess what...no bankruptcy. Do you really have faith in mesa management and union leadership when they make claims like this as reasons/justification for why they can't pay you? Just thought I'd rehash that gem touted by both JO and union leadership leading up to/during the last TA.
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Old 12-15-2016 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
Remember those conf calls when the union and management said that these 50 seat companies like SkyWest have stocks that were cratering because of all their 50 seaters? And they'd have to file a bankruptcy to get to get rid of them? And that Mesa was the best place to work because it's the only company that is well positioned with no 50 seaters and good cost structure? They said that when SKYW stock was at a 2-5 year high (low-mid 20s a couple dif times they said it). SKYW yesterday announced a deal with bombardier to give their 200s back (on the XJT side I think, not sure of the details), got paid $90m by bombardier, and their stock is now again at an all time high at $39. Guess what...no bankruptcy. Do you really have faith in mesa management and union leadership when they make claims like this as reasons/justification for why they can't pay you? Just thought I'd rehash that gem touted by both JO and union leadership leading up to/during the last TA.
This. All of this.

The main thing that is going to impede a company's ability to survive at this point, is a lack of pilots. Companies that pay their pilots, will have pilots.

End of story.
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Old 12-15-2016 | 09:42 AM
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Mesa will always be able to hire pilots. There will always be pilots that fail out of training at other airlines, pilots with 5+ check ride failures, pilots with multiple DWI's or other felonies, and pilots with other major issues that no one else wants.

They will all be able to find a home at a place like Mesa - an airline that will hire anyone over the phone and send them out to fly an airliner.
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Old 12-15-2016 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by daOldMan
Mesa will always be able to hire pilots. There will always be pilots that fail out of training at other airlines, pilots with 5+ check ride failures, pilots with multiple DWI's or other felonies, and pilots with other major issues that no one else wants.

They will all be able to find a home at a place like Mesa - an airline that will hire anyone over the phone and send them out to fly an airliner.
Felonies? Almost every IAH trip goes to Mexico or Canada at least once. There are plenty of professional, competent pilots at Mesa with no skeletons.
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Old 12-15-2016 | 10:00 AM
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Felonies? Almost every IAH trip goes to Mexico or Canada at least once. There are plenty of professional, competent pilots at Mesa with no skeletons.
Why? Why would any "professional, competent" pilot go to Mesa?
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Old 12-15-2016 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by InvalidDB
Felonies? Almost every IAH trip goes to Mexico or Canada at least once. There are plenty of professional, competent pilots at Mesa with no skeletons.
So, why go to such a awful place? I cant find a good reason... Base? There are other regionals at the same base Mesa is. Why make 24K a year when u can make 40 or 60K everywhere else?? Quick upgrade?? Well last I heard, isnt that quick anymore.
A professional and/or competent pilot, will look out for himself and his family, before applies for mesa, unless it is his last option. Maybe a CFI job would be better in QOL and pay now a days....
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Old 12-15-2016 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by daOldMan
Why? Why would any "professional, competent" pilot go to Mesa?
The "why the eff would you go to Mesa?" thing has only existed for about a year and half. Before that, plenty of "competent and professional" people came here to upgrade. And before that, Mesa had been around since 1980. The entirety of the pilot group isn't represented by a fraction of the new hires. Even now, some people just choose to come here. I don't know why. They just do. A less exaggerated version of the people daOldMan describes exist in each class (as in all regionals), but the standard 1500-hour CFI type is still present as well. Also, a lot of these international people are coming from foreign airlines to get 121 time. I don't know the recruiting tactics, but maybe Mesa is going after these folks. Heck, in the past year and a half the Navy, AF and Army (pilots, that is) have all been represented. Yes, I realize the daOldMan's post is troll-ish, but don't rag on your fellow pilots.

As far as leaving goes, once you're here, jumping to another regional isn't necessarily the best financial/career decision considering the break in flight time and income (especially as a captain), as well as the fact that Mesa simply has to come up with a new contract at some (very soon) point to stay in business, in which case you've received the pay bump transitioning to another regional would have provided.
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