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Old 08-17-2019, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by captive apple View Post
I’d say the 175 contract is secure with that staffing. Especially with the call mentioning United and Mesa talking about flowing Mesa 175s through other hubs.
Well the 175 already goes through iad pretty heavy. But I agree I think it’s safe. It’s staffed with good performance. I don’t see why UA would feel the need to mess with it.
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Old 08-17-2019, 12:27 PM
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Well the 175 already goes through iad pretty heavy. But I agree I think it’s safe. It’s staffed with good performance. I don’t see why UA would feel the need to mess with it.
They won't mess with it.
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Old 08-17-2019, 05:49 PM
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They won't mess with it.
Poor Compass pilots think they are going to get some of our flying. I'm not sure why they think that. Our CPP starts back up this fall. I can't see United taking away flying if they are still doing that program with us.
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Old 08-17-2019, 09:25 PM
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Poor Compass pilots think they are going to get some of our flying. I'm not sure why they think that. Our CPP starts back up this fall. I can't see United taking away flying if they are still doing that program with us.
20 of your UAX 700s are up at the end of August...UA bought 20 new 175s...UA converting 700s to 550s...you do the math. Of all the CPPs Mesa has the most stringent requirements. A CPP can be canceled/throttled anytime they want
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Old 08-17-2019, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by s3cLyfe View Post
20 of your UAX 700s are up at the end of August...UA bought 20 new 175s...UA converting 700s to 550s...you do the math. Of all the CPPs Mesa has the most stringent requirements. A CPP can be canceled/throttled anytime they want
It’s tacky to get into a pi$$ing contest over something that none of us have any control over. The senior partner in the codeshare agreement is reliably going to whipsaw the junior partners, it allows them to hold down expenses. Part of holding down those expenses is creating situations that compel pilots to restart their seniority which helps to hold down their personnel expenses. None of us should be rooting for the other side to be placed in that situation.

In a fair world anyone judged qualified to carry the codeshare’s pax would get a seniority number with the senior partner they would take with them to that major, but that’s NOT GONNA HAPPEN because bringing in OTS hires - especially retired military - allows them to keep the average seniority lower and saves them on payroll.

From time to time any of us might get screwed over by the whipsaw, and unless the RLA is changed we can’t stop that, but let’s not root for it to happen for any group. The other pilot group is not the enemy.
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Old 08-17-2019, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
It’s tacky to get into a pi$$ing contest over something that none of us have any control over. The senior partner in the codeshare agreement is reliably going to whipsaw the junior partners, it allows them to hold down expenses. Part of holding down those expenses is creating situations that compel pilots to restart their seniority which helps to hold down their personnel expenses. None of us should be rooting for the other side to be placed in that situation.

In a fair world anyone judged qualified to carry the codeshare’s pax would get a seniority number with the senior partner they would take with them to that major, but that’s NOT GONNA HAPPEN because bringing in OTS hires - especially retired military - allows them to keep the average seniority lower and saves them on payroll.

From time to time any of us might get screwed over by the whipsaw, and unless the RLA is changed we can’t stop that, but let’s not root for it to happen for any group. The other pilot group is not the enemy.
I’m not rooting for/against anyone. I agree with your post and it’s an unfortunate reality. I am just stating the facts and adding an observation as to why compass thinks that. I also say that I could’ve said it in a less sarcastic manner
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Old 08-18-2019, 05:36 AM
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Is anyone else missing the $40 iPad payment from their paycheck?
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Old 08-18-2019, 06:33 AM
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Is anyone else missing the $40 iPad payment from their paycheck?
Yes, me and all the other pilots I’ve asked that I have contact with. Payroll is going to have a massive amount of emails in their inbox tomorrow xD
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Old 08-18-2019, 07:27 AM
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Yes, me and all the other pilots I’ve asked that I have contact with. Payroll is going to have a massive amount of emails in their inbox tomorrow xD
Got mine. Under adjustments. Right side of the page.
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Old 08-18-2019, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by avi8tor614 View Post
Poor Compass pilots think they are going to get some of our flying. I'm not sure why they think that. Our CPP starts back up this fall. I can't see United taking away flying if they are still doing that program with us.
This is going to be real awkward if you’re wrong.
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