Transitioning with some baggage.
07-21-2017 | 07:12 AM
#31
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From: Midfield downwind
The people inviting and interviewing people at the airlines know what they're doing when they look over an application. When they see a black mark, they're taking it in the context of the rest of what they see on the app. Mostly they recognize that everyone makes mistakes of varying degrees over the course of a flying career.
As has been said, you've had a decade of military flying between your FAA warning and now. Your demonstrated competence in your military career is going to more than offset a single aviation-related oops.
As has been said, you've had a decade of military flying between your FAA warning and now. Your demonstrated competence in your military career is going to more than offset a single aviation-related oops.
07-21-2017 | 05:59 PM
#32
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From: Gear slinger
That may be the case when there's very little hiring going on in the industry... not so today.
07-23-2017 | 02:24 AM
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As far as the original post, I recently started actually going through applications, and one airline's addendum says "Do not list arrests that have not resulted in a conviction." If my charges were dismissed due to a diversion program, is it still smart to list my MiP there?
07-23-2017 | 08:55 AM
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As far as the original post, I recently started actually going through applications, and one airline's addendum says "Do not list arrests that have not resulted in a conviction." If my charges were dismissed due to a diversion program, is it still smart to list my MiP there?
07-23-2017 | 09:37 AM
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07-23-2017 | 09:55 AM
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As far as the original post, I recently started actually going through applications, and one airline's addendum says "Do not list arrests that have not resulted in a conviction." If my charges were dismissed due to a diversion program, is it still smart to list my MiP there?
MiP, minor. Happened a long long time ago. Dumb kid, made a dumb kid mistake. Not even a blip on the radar.
When the TMAAT question in the interview comes "tell me about a time you made a mistake/used poor judgment" you probably have something more recent/relavant, WE ALL DO
I had one too, wasn't even asked about it.
09-19-2020 | 07:03 AM
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From: Gear slinger
Just disclose everything. If you haven’t yet, get copies of your court records to backup what you disclose.
09-19-2020 | 08:25 AM
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Depends on the airline and how the data was put into The database checked. I had a buddy get tagged for something which was dismissed. He disclosed it during his recruitment process and kept the paperwork. In indoc he was pulled in for termination because the background check the original charge showed but not that it was adjudicated with a dismissal. He brought the paperwork in from the court and a printed copy of his airline apps showing it was disclosed to the company. He stayed.
Just disclose everything. If you haven’t yet, get copies of your court records to backup what you disclose.
Just disclose everything. If you haven’t yet, get copies of your court records to backup what you disclose.
Regarding your friend, was it a felony? Was it within ten years?
09-19-2020 | 09:22 AM
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
There's no consistency between employers. They may have different philosophies, and more likely the laws in their HQ states determine what they can ask and how far back. You have to RTFQ, answer literally, and if there's any grey area probably safer to err on the side of disclosure (better to not get the interview/job than to get fired for lying to a 121 employer).
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