Military Flight Time Conversion
08-07-2013 | 08:38 AM
#32
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From: FAA 'Flight Check'
A shot in the dark but does anyone know if you can even list RPA time on airlineapps? I have enough single seat time to meet the minimums for ATP and Airlines but wasn't sure if I should add the 1600 hrs of RPA time . I see options for gliders so I figured if someone can log time for a glider maybe I can throw up RPA time for dropping bombs. I'm expecting a lot of FXIII close in the face with this post so I won't be offended when you guys laugh. Just asking the question.
Glider time counts towards other ratings, not a fair comparison.
Congratulations on doing good work dropping bombs with a RPA, but I don't think that experience is going to get you anywhere making it through the widgets in the application process. Good interview fodder though.
08-07-2013 | 09:46 AM
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OK - I'll start off with the lauging then
Glider time counts towards other ratings, not a fair comparison.
Congratulations on doing good work dropping bombs with a RPA, but I don't think that experience is going to get you anywhere making it through the widgets in the application process. Good interview fodder though.
Glider time counts towards other ratings, not a fair comparison.
Congratulations on doing good work dropping bombs with a RPA, but I don't think that experience is going to get you anywhere making it through the widgets in the application process. Good interview fodder though.
Someone had to ask the question. I'm sure if I get a phone call for an interview that my time flying RPA will come up and they will give me the hairy eyeball. Happy to be back in the Viper!
Cheers
08-07-2013 | 09:52 AM
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Yeah I would laugh too, in fact I'm laughing now. I just figured it would help inflate my 1600 hrs of Viper time. Atleast then they would see I had to use some CRM. They may not count it now but in 10 years when they can't make pilots fast enough they may count it as something. I'm a fighter guy by trade but I can say that flying RPA all over Afghanistan dodging weather and other aircraft and abiding by all the same flight rules it should count for something. I've flown enough civilian airplanes by autopilot to know that it's not much different. The only difference is you don't always log takeoff's and landings.
Someone had to ask the question. I'm sure if I get a phone call for an interview that my time flying RPA will come up and they will give me the hairy eyeball. Happy to be back in the Viper!
Cheers
Someone had to ask the question. I'm sure if I get a phone call for an interview that my time flying RPA will come up and they will give me the hairy eyeball. Happy to be back in the Viper!
Cheers
Not ONLY have you used CRM - but you had to conduct such between airplanes, using hand and arm signals, over the radio with other flight members, assets on the ground, the SOF or base radio, and even ATC - all more difficult than looking across the cockpit at the person sitting next to you
Don't sell yourself short.
The value of RPV flying is a highly debated subject on this board and elsewhere.
08-07-2013 | 11:01 AM
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From: E190 FO
Now don't tell me that you are not a convert to the idea of single-seat CRM.
Not ONLY have you used CRM - but you had to conduct such between airplanes, using hand and arm signals, over the radio with other flight members, assets on the ground, the SOF or base radio, and even ATC - all more difficult than looking across the cockpit at the person sitting next to you
Don't sell yourself short.
The value of RPV flying is a highly debated subject on this board and elsewhere.
Not ONLY have you used CRM - but you had to conduct such between airplanes, using hand and arm signals, over the radio with other flight members, assets on the ground, the SOF or base radio, and even ATC - all more difficult than looking across the cockpit at the person sitting next to you
Don't sell yourself short.
The value of RPV flying is a highly debated subject on this board and elsewhere.
I understand what your point is though. Hopefully, if they ask I can just shed some light on the similarities AND differences. I flew RPA with a bunch of heavy, fighter and airline pilots. Those airline guys are all going back to Delta, United and AA too.
Cheers
01-30-2014 | 07:48 PM
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Just log the time exactly the way it appears in your military records--if a particular airline allows for additional credit, they'll provide guidance or calculate it automatically based on sorties. I would not pad your time by yourself in any way.
FWIW, when I was approaching ATP mins, I called up the FAA to ask an inspector how to convert the time so I could get over 1500TT. All he did was refer me to FAR 61.51 for directions on how to log flight time--in other words not much help.
FWIW, when I was approaching ATP mins, I called up the FAA to ask an inspector how to convert the time so I could get over 1500TT. All he did was refer me to FAR 61.51 for directions on how to log flight time--in other words not much help.
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