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Old 10-01-2009, 08:25 PM
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The SOI received by me was on 16 July. Flight records received my Aeronautical Order on 29 September. It was dated 24 September by the air staff. It appears that it takes six to eight weeks as a general rule. It is better in some ways to have a non-flying assignment as aeronautical orders can be issued by the air staff while you are waiting at your assignment base. (I got my EAD orders on 31 July from AFPC.) That was my case.
If you have a flying assignment do the aeronautical orders have to be revalidated before AFPC will send your EAD orders?
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Old 10-02-2009, 09:20 AM
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If you have a flying assignment do the aeronautical orders have to be revalidated before AFPC will send your EAD orders?
No. Mine were still in work when got EAD orders and even when I arrived on station. I had about a 3 week stop at my PCS base before going TDY to flying training and the OSS had to work the AO during that time. BTW, it took the entire 3 weeks to get it done (about 6 weeks from the time I sent the info requested for revalidation).
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Old 10-02-2009, 10:54 AM
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No. Mine were still in work when got EAD orders and even when I arrived on station. I had about a 3 week stop at my PCS base before going TDY to flying training and the OSS had to work the AO during that time. BTW, it took the entire 3 weeks to get it done (about 6 weeks from the time I sent the info requested for revalidation).
Did your SOI contain a contingency statement on getting your AO revalidated?
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Old 10-02-2009, 11:19 AM
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You need to turn that off yourself. The two don't talk to each other. And yes you'll be able to repay on some kind of payment schedule.
I stand corrected. Contact retired pay at DFAS Cleveland 1-888-332-7411 and fax them (Attention: General Processing 1-800-469-6559) a copy of your EAD orders. It will take them 72 working hours to acknowledge receipt and @ 30 days to turn off retired pay. AFPC will be sending them the EAD orders eventually, but this should speed up the process. You will receive a letter asking if you want to repay from your active duty pay.

Break, break: When flight records receives the Aeronautical Order they need to send a copy of the AO along with a DD Form 114 so that finance can ensure your flight pay is received. This is supposed to happen automatically, but don't count on it. Without the DD Form 114, nothing happens.
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Old 10-02-2009, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdog58 View Post
Did your SOI contain a contingency statement on getting your AO revalidated?

Mine said: "You will be ordered to EAD contingent on our receipt of your SOI and your aeronautical orders being revalidated. Should your AO not be revalidated, this specific offer is void, and you will be contacted about other possible assignemnt opportunities."

I got this email message after sending my AO revalidation package in:
"We have received your email w/ the required documents IAW AFI 11-402, attachment 6. We have initiated processing your package for revalidation. Thanks...."

I think they took a quick look at my AO revalidation package and gave the go-ahead to AFPC since my timeline was short to make the training date on the offer.
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:33 PM
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When flight records receives the Aeronautical Order they need to send a copy of the AO along with a DD Form 114 so that finance can ensure your flight pay is received. This is supposed to happen automatically, but don't count on it. Without the DD Form 114, nothing happens.
Flight records needs to receive an additional internal communication to justify the officer's new adjusted ASD (Aviation Service Date). When they receive that communication, then they can forward the aeronautical order and the DD Form 114 to finance to initiate flight pay. This will take some time. My AO was generated on 24 September and flight records received it on 29 September, but as of 5 October, they had still not received this needed validation. They had contacted their POC on the air staff, but have received no word from him yet. He appears to be swamped. Go figure.
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Old 10-09-2009, 05:15 PM
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...When they receive that communication, then they can forward the aeronautical order and the DD Form 114 to finance to initiate flight pay....
I too have had problems. Actually the paperwork ends up at DFAS. My HARM office / Flight records have done the above and still waiting on DFAS to get it right.
Other pay stuff to watch out for: Retired guys coming back, you should get pay for uniforms like when you first joined the AF ($400). Also watch out for some reason they started taking money out for Montgy. GI Bill. If this happens go by the Education Office they can help, they said this is a common problem. They will stop it and then you need to work with finance to get paid back. Next is dental, you will need to set this up all over again along with re-enroll your dependants in Tri-Care. Good Luck and watch your pay.
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Old 10-09-2009, 08:32 PM
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I am currently in the process and expecting my SOI soon. Heading to 617 AOC @ Ramstein. After AFPC gets the returned/signed SOI how do you work out start & RNLTD?
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Old 10-10-2009, 05:05 AM
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All depolyments and remotes seem to stem from the short tour and long tour return dates. When this process started I remember the "dates will be adjusted" for your civilian time for guys who have not been active duty to prevent our names all being at the top. Any word on this? I think Title 10 talks about this date being the date you enter EAD? Does this reset to 2009?
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I don't thinks so. Short tour return date has nothing to do with deployments, only 365s and short tours. Which is why AFPC offers protection from 365s and short tours under this program. There really is no protection from deployments (179 and less) for anyone, including returnees in this program.
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