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Old 12-27-2013 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RogAir
I define it as the Government not endorsing or referencing any religion. Isn't that what the Constitution says? I believe this is what the founding fathers intended, having seen the ruinous effects on freedom in state sponsored religious European countries.
That is not what the Constitution says. I posted what the Constitution says a few posts up. The founding fathers were against the government establishing a "state-sponsored (as you put it)" religion. What you see today is people getting "offended" at anything and everything and infringing on other people's freedoms of religion, expression, and speech. This has to stop. All Americans have the freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution, not just a select few.
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Old 12-27-2013 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by CAFB 04-12
Good one. Which holiday do the Satanists celebrate that would cause them to write cards to soldiers? Muslims want to hand out Ramadan cards at the VA? Great. No problem with me.

not being a Satanist, I don't know when/what they Celebrate, but when they do, I bet it's freakishly epic

Uh, have you read the Constitution of the United States? Go read it then tell me which chapter and verse mentions "separation of Church and State."

you are correct, I was paraphrasing the verse "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." The actual wording is better than my paraphrase. My constitutional history may be off, but I believe the SCOTUS has used Jeffersons and Madison's personal writings to determine intent, and that intent was "separation of church and state"



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Old 12-27-2013 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Sum Ting Wong

What is worse, the Taliban or liberal progressives? They have much in common!
I think the Taliban has more in common with the Heritage Foundation than liberal progressives.
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Old 12-27-2013 | 05:49 PM
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Kinda. It's ok for them to have sex with little boys...

It isn't gay if you're pitching, or in prison, or......
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Old 12-27-2013 | 06:05 PM
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Muslims have made sex with recently deceased wives a right. Can their favorite animals be far behind?
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Old 12-27-2013 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RogAir
It isn't gay if you're pitching, or in prison, or......
And some gays will have to wear diapers for the rest of their poor lives.
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Old 12-27-2013 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris99
That is not what the Constitution says. I posted what the Constitution says a few posts up. The founding fathers were against the government establishing a "state-sponsored (as you put it)" religion. What you see today is people getting "offended" at anything and everything and infringing on other people's freedoms of religion, expression, and speech. This has to stop. All Americans have the freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution, not just a select few.

Who is stopping freedom of religion, expression, and speech?

Wanna put a giant inflatable baby Jesus in your front yard, go ahead.
Wanna stand in your synagogues front yard and hand out leaflets, go ahead.
Wanna build a mosque near Ground Zero, go ahe.....oh hold on there

But if you want to do all of that on US Government property or with tax money, that is against the law--see the difference.

So if someone is offended that someone else was offended because they've always had baby Jesus on the AFB but now they can't, well, that's just the Constitution catching up with us.
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Old 12-27-2013 | 06:39 PM
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[QUOTE=Sum Ting Wong;1548085]Muslims have made sex with recently deceased wives a right. Can their favorite animals be far behind?[/QUOTE.........

They have some interesting things they do.
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Old 12-27-2013 | 06:41 PM
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Oops sorry didn't mean to post here and I can't remove it..
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Old 12-27-2013 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Sum Ting Wong
Muslims have made sex with recently deceased wives a right. Can their favorite animals be far behind?
Not sure if I can agree that it is a religious thing, pretty sure you're wrong on that one. Certain cultures have norms that often override their particular religion.
Beastiality or Zoophilia is pretty much condemned by all religions. We were founded as a Judao-Christian society, so you're saying that Judaism and or Christianity permit the following behavior?

Umm, your vantage point of the world and other people/religions/cultures needs maturing, dear sir.

Senate Approves Bill that Legalizes Sodomy and Bestiality in U.S. Military | CNS News
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