Class drops?
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We shall see. The new contract gives a 24 month lock out for upgrades in any fleet and the last captain drops went down to something like 14 months. It is also 4+ straight weeks away from home. I'm sure the company is hoping to assign newhires these slots to avoid the training churn and wasting 100K+ types like they have been doing for the last year+. I'm sure some junior pilots will take the bait, but I'm guessing we will actually see some newhires sprinkled in.
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Did you see the April 25th 6000 SIC award? The email specifically says there were NO ELIGIBLE UNLOCKED BIDDERS for both the 6000 and 650 SIC slots. All the slots were filled with pilots who had their seat locks waived. There is another bid for May that has 24 6000 slots and 4 650 slots. It is very likely that every single slot is once again unbid by unlocked pilots. I believe it is unlikely that there will be enough waived pilots to fill these slots and I am 99.9% positive that the company will not junior assign them after watching almost every pilot they junior assigned within the last year get upgrades, thusly wasting millions of dollars in the training musical chairs.
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Did you see the April 25th 6000 SIC award? The email specifically says there were NO ELIGIBLE UNLOCKED BIDDERS for both the 6000 and 650 SIC slots. All the slots were filled with pilots who had their seat locks waived. There is another bid for May that has 24 6000 slots and 4 650 slots. It is very likely that every single slot is once again unbid by unlocked pilots. I believe it is unlikely that there will be enough waived pilots to fill these slots and I am 99.9% positive that the company will not junior assign them after watching almost every pilot they junior assigned within the last year get upgrades, thusly wasting millions of dollars in the training musical chairs.
If they waive seat locks they are going to have to waive a specific pilot who has a 9 year seat lock out there. It might be 8 by now.
So they will continue to junior assign until they are forced to waive seat locks which isn't happening anytime soon.
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You're reading it wrong.
If they waive seat locks they are going to have to waive a specific pilot who has a 9 year seat lock out there. It might be 8 by now.
So they will continue to junior assign until they are forced to waive seat locks which isn't happening anytime soon.
If they waive seat locks they are going to have to waive a specific pilot who has a 9 year seat lock out there. It might be 8 by now.
So they will continue to junior assign until they are forced to waive seat locks which isn't happening anytime soon.
#15
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Although it seems like a very low possibility, what is the downside of getting assigned the Globals out of new hire training? Long time lurker here applying in a year or so, I would think the 5000/6000 have good maintenance and FDP or is it much lower than something like a laitutde? Is the FO seat lock longer?
I apologize for any missed terms in my post, still learning.
I apologize for any missed terms in my post, still learning.
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Although it seems like a very low possibility, what is the downside of getting assigned the Globals out of new hire training? Long time lurker here applying in a year or so, I would think the 5000/6000 have good maintenance and FDP or is it much lower than something like a laitutde? Is the FO seat lock longer?
I apologize for any missed terms in my post, still learning.
I apologize for any missed terms in my post, still learning.
#17
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The mx is hit or miss like most of the fleets and has been lower lately with scheduling using them to recover smaller airplane trips too much. The FDP is on the low side. The Lattitude and 350 are the kings of FDP. The seat lock is the same as all the others for the Globals. The training is longer- likely a month+ in Columbus with some days off in there, but not enough for the company to send you home. That month+ is on top of basic indoc training that you will likely do before the sim.
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Thanks for this! Anyone have the airframe assignments for the April 29th hires?
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